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In this episode, the guys debate if they could actually land a plane in a crisis, settle the N64 vs. GameCube debate, and call out the "rich kid" flexes from our childhood, like having a fridge with an ice maker.
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SPEAKER_02:Back in the day.
SPEAKER_01:Welcome to the slightly above average podcast where we've got garage vibes, hot takes, and zero expertise. Mostly we like to argue with one another about things we have no business arguing about, probably exactly like you and your buddies do every single time you get together. Today, we've got everything in the docket from planes to fast food, horror villains, and a uh, I guess a ranking of things that we used to think were rich when we were children. This episode has a high probability of getting us canceled. But before we get into any of that, I want to introduce you to my facial hairless friend here, Mr. Sam Pulla, and the illustrious Mr. Joe Minert. And our favorite segment of the day, Sam's Snacks. So in front of me, if uh this is your first time here, Sam likes to bring an assortment of things that piss me off every episode. And today he actually's claiming I'm gonna like this one. What do we got?
SPEAKER_02:Well, there's a bit of a twist on our uh typical snacks. We have an assortment of snacks, but there's a twist to them. In front of you, we have uh limes, lemons, grapefruit, sauerkraut, pickles, apple cider, and white distilled vinegar, along with these extremely sour treats. However, we have these miracle berry tablets. Are you uh you familiar with these? Absolutely not. So I I tried the last time I tried these, I was in high school, but uh there's these It's been a minute. But I will but what they do is they you basically you pop one of these things, it coats the inside of your mouth and your tongue, and it reverses your taste bud. So anything that's sweet or anything that's sour will be sweet, anything that's bitter will be a little bit more palatable. So we have a bunch of sour and bitter things that should taste wonderful after we pop these.
SPEAKER_00:Alright. It's like this is crazy. No, this is so stupid. How long does it last? An hour. Why would you want to do that?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I don't know. What's wrong with how these things taste in the first place? What's one what's wrong with how God created these?
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, I love the way all these taste naturally. Honestly, I I'd clear this can of sauerkraut uh on my own if need be, but it's just kind of wild that your taste buds could change based off of it.
SPEAKER_01:Ever wondered if Sam's a Yinzer, a man who claims to clear a can of sauerkraut in a single sitting. That's that's as yin's as you get, I think. Yeah. Oh, good news. We got a ticket.
SPEAKER_02:They're expired. Flavor tripping.
SPEAKER_01:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_02:Oh wow, look at that. Yeah, we're gonna be one way ticket.
SPEAKER_01:So, so how's this work? What do we got to do here? What am I sticking in my mouth?
SPEAKER_02:You're gonna put one of these in your mouth, let it dissolve, and then then we start eating.
SPEAKER_01:Is there like a time period in which we require these to dissolve? Is this an upper decker, lower decker, side under the tongue? What do we do?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, just swish it around your mouth, get it coated in as many spots in your mouth as uh humanly possible.
SPEAKER_01:If this ruins my lunch, I'm gonna be so pissed at you just.
SPEAKER_03:Better not have any other adverse. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Let's look at the ingredients here on something that literally just you He could have accidentally ordered a honey pack or something.
SPEAKER_03:You never know.
SPEAKER_01:Good news. It's not exciting. It's a choking hazard to children, it's not a significant source of saturated fat, trans fat, or dietary fiber, thank goodness. That has no ingredients on it. Oh, the ingredients are this is a great one. The ingredients are miracle fruit powder and cornstarch.
SPEAKER_00:Everything you need.
SPEAKER_01:So have you ever had a dandelion like flour?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've ate one.
SPEAKER_01:I think this is that. So, like I've ever been in a bar and they're they're like, here, eat this dandelion flour. And uh and then you're all like tingly and shit in your mouth.
SPEAKER_02:No, like it's a real dandelion flour? What does it do?
SPEAKER_01:Like there's uh kind of similar to this. I'm sure the editors are huge fans of us having things jostling around our mouths as we try to have conversations with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh this tastes like shit. See, I don't think this is bad. It tastes like a stale, stale Tylenol.
SPEAKER_01:I would go somewhere between that and like an expired apple. Yeah. Or like an expired berry. Expired apple would be. You're like eating it, it's got it it wants to be sweet, but it tastes like you're licking shit off the floor.
SPEAKER_02:It's mushy and definitely not good, but it's not like horrible to have in your mouth. It's not bad.
SPEAKER_01:The most Sam thing I've ever heard. Alright, so supposedly we gotta let these dissolved. Apologies for any issues there are in the audio. Um blame Sam in the comments. And on his personal Instagram at Sam Pula. Um just go in there and destroy him, please. Thank you. All right. So with that being said, a question has been popping up as of late. And I thought we already talked about this, but I guess we're gonna talk about it again.
SPEAKER_03:We talked about it off camera.
SPEAKER_01:Did we?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. In the stages of planning this podcast. Interesting. Never seen the light of day.
SPEAKER_01:So this is something we should absolutely never be considering, but for some reason the internet's finding it to be quite a tasty topic. Joe, hit us with it. These are terrible. This is an awful idea. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Alright, you're on a flight, pilot passes out. Could you land the plane? Need be. Out of one person, they're like, Sam, John, you need to land this plane. Could you do it?
SPEAKER_02:Number one, I don't I don't think I could do it without someone guiding me through with some training. Number two, I wouldn't even want to attempt because then that would just be like the notion afterwards, like, you see Sam tried to land that plane the other way. I knew he couldn't do it. I don't know why. Of course he tried to land that plane. So, no, I don't I don't I I I find it ridiculous that this is this like took off as much as it did. Because how how? You're in this machine, you have no clue how anything works, without any guidance or instruction. How? Just grab a hold of the thing and go for it. That's the hardest part. Pilots are always saying, like, like taking off, flying, like, I mean, obviously it's difficult, but the hardest part is the landing. Even with experienced plot pilots, I've been on planes where you get a hard landing from time to time. I don't know, I don't.
SPEAKER_03:What do you think? Oh, I don't think there's a chance in hell I'm landing that damn plane. I I just don't have the confidence to to do it. I I think like the ego in me is like, yeah, I can do it. But then like the realist in me is like absolutely no shot in hell, even with someone coaching me through it, that that plane's landing successfully. They're just too big. Aircrafts are so intricate. I think the overstimulating part of it would be the all the buttons. Like, click this button here, you have to do this, roll this button. I don't know, but like that to me is the part where I'm like, ah, yeah, you need years of experience for that. I feel like for it to be successful without an incident occurring.
SPEAKER_01:Interestingly enough, there's a lot of variables that go into this statement. And uh I don't think there's a world where I don't think I couldn't land that plane. I'm taking that thing 100% of the time and I'm getting it on the ground. No, that's nuts. Here's what here's the way I look at it is the pilot's passed out for whatever reason. Maybe he's you know a little bit inebriated or he had a rough evening, you know, whatever, whatever, or she or whatever. So you're already in the air. You have time because it's it's going, right? So the the preface wasn't that like the an engine blew and you got to land this thing. Like it is a fully functional, ready to rock and roll. The plane's good. Bad pilot, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I can I can get online and I can Google some shit to answer some questions for me. So like I'm I'm I'm I'm already, we got internet on airplanes now, right? I'm I'm I'm in the weeds on that thing. I'm trying to. Google is gonna help you? You have the headset to ATC. Yeah, and I can listen. If someone just told me what to do, there's not a doubt in my mind that I couldn't land it. I got someone on the here's here's what I understand. How are you gonna go through life and let everything just dictate control? Like, I want that shit in my hands.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's I'll agree with that. If I'm gonna go out, I would rather go out knowing that I do it every yeah. I'd agree with that part.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna go down and you're gonna get put blame for it after it goes down to make no mind over there.
SPEAKER_01:That's the number one It's not like I'm gonna fist fight or shank someone to make sure I'm the guy on it, but like if no one's stepping up, I'm there. We need someone to land this plane. Yeah, let's go. All right.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I'm not saying in a scenario like that, like it's like, well, there's no other choice, you don't try, but to just outwardly say, Oh, I can land that, that's that's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01:I have the see here's the thing here's a life belief for me that you guys might have picked up on at some point. I believe in me more than anybody else believes in me. So, like, why what world would it be like sane to not think that you're the one that can do it? That can only get you so far. It can get you everywhere. Don't no, don't listen to that shit. That's loser mentality.
SPEAKER_02:You have you've uh you've only you've only driven a stick a handful of times, right? You have faith that you can hop in my ranger and take it on a 60-mile trek.
SPEAKER_01:100% right now. Thousand percent. There's nothing in my mind. All right, thank you for coming to the podcast. No stalls.
SPEAKER_02:No one said that wasn't gonna stall, but it makes message.
SPEAKER_00:We're dying anyway. There's a hundred percent chance of death. Well, if I can get that down lower, why wouldn't I do that?
SPEAKER_02:I'm not saying the question wasn't do you attempt to try it? The question is do you think you could do it? Yes, and I do different that attempting and doing are very different.
SPEAKER_01:No doubt in my mind that I could. I know pilots, and I think I'm just as equipped as they are.
SPEAKER_03:What's wrong with that? I don't think anything's wrong with thinking that, hearing like I'm just as equipped. I think when it comes to the nuance, that's like someone saying they can come in here and they can operate the machinery that like you've learned over the years. 100% could. They might lose a finger, arm, right? I actually know because they got shot 10 months. And in your case, though, in this situation, you just lose your life. Like, there's not much. We're dying anyway. It's a hundred percent chance of that. Exactly. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:It's like what why wouldn't I try to mitigate that? You're just gonna sit there and take it? No, once again, that's not the question. That is the question.
SPEAKER_02:No, would I could I attempt? Absolutely, but could I succeed? I don't know about that. You ever see that there's that HBO show, the rehearsal with Nathan Fielder? He trains to be a pilot like super, super quickly, and I watched all of his flights. Every time he'd go to land the practice planes, like every single time, the guy would have to take control and be like, all right, all right, I'm taking it, and he'd have to land the thing because it's just so difficult to get that perfect.
SPEAKER_01:But the fact that other people can do it means that it's doable, which means that I have the confidence that I could do it.
SPEAKER_00:Correct, correct. But I mean like That's not how you look at things?
SPEAKER_01:That's something I'd say. If another human being is capable of doing that thing, they learned the skills. I guess this comes with maturity and age. Nobody is nobody is born with their excellence. Everyone works at it. I agree. I believe that I because someone else learned that skill and that wasn't in innately given to them at birth, that I could do it even with a minimal amount. Now, like it's a low likelihood it's gonna be great. Yeah, but I think I could do it.
SPEAKER_02:That'd be like so. Right now, if I said I think I I think I could score a touchdown pass against the Houston Texans, you'd be like, Oh yeah, I think a human.
SPEAKER_01:No, I know for a fact you can't.
SPEAKER_02:But you can land a plane, but you can try. Yeah, I could try to land the plane. I would try. Do I think I could do it?
SPEAKER_01:I guess the real question is do you think it's harder to score a touchdown against an NFL defense than landing an airplane?
SPEAKER_03:That's a great question. No, God knows landing an airplane has to be harder. I think it they're very two hard things here.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not saying one's easier than the other, but like here's here's here's how I'm gonna look at it. You put me in a flight sim, you give me six months, I'm landing a plant.
SPEAKER_04:That's completely different.
SPEAKER_01:But there's no simulation for you to be able to train to get up to try to score a touchdown against an NFL defense.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the only thing you have going for you in the NFL though, you have schematics. I mean, like, how are you scoring a touchdown and you're running a rub route on a pass play in a goal?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, you got someone getting hurt and go. I still think there's a lot of things. I feel like you're on an island. It's like I still think a hundred times there's only one person in this room that could potentially score a touchdown. And Joe's an athlete. Joe's an athlete. You have a zero percent chance. Joe's got a chance. You'd have to like you're right though.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think I don't think I could even score in the NFL, don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER_01:But it's one of those things that I think. I'd have to be on the two-yard line and hope to run someone over. That's it. I have size on my.
SPEAKER_03:I guess my question would be how automated are these landing processes nowadays?
SPEAKER_01:That's a question to ask though.
SPEAKER_00:They're not that automatic. I watched that.
SPEAKER_03:I know, they're probably not, but like flying.
SPEAKER_01:The plane flies its damn self in the air. What do you mean? There's got to be automations on landing.
SPEAKER_02:Landing's different.
SPEAKER_01:You're not wrong. I'm just comparing the two, right? Like just trying to go through it. It's like So I'm a psycho because I'm confident I can do something. Okay. Like, by no means do I think I'm better than someone that can land a plane, but I do think I could do it. With training. Period. You give me someone in my head, like you give me all those variables. Someone's in my headset. I got time to look at it because I don't have to land for an hour.
SPEAKER_02:Once again, I preface that. The question wasn't with guidance and preparation. The question is, can you get in that cockpit and land?
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna solve problems. Johnson, you're in seat 1B, man. You're you're on your laptop, system and processes. They come knocking, Mr. Maleky, you gotta land this plane. You hopping in and landing it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'm here for it. We're dying regardless. I'm I'm taking the lanes.
SPEAKER_02:Took us out, and where were we when we were in the car together? Uh than Denver. Yeah, we almost got T-boned by some guy in Denver, but you're gonna land a Boeing 740. Can we tell this story real quick?
SPEAKER_01:That was the funniest thing. You you but bro, you have way more driving incidents, problems, and issues than anyone in this room. I just told you, I drive a stick.
SPEAKER_02:We get in that ranger. I'm driving it better than you any day of the week. Anything with a stick. Yeah, of course you are. What are you talking about, my driving incidents?
SPEAKER_01:How many accidents have you been in? Two. Zero. Next. He brings up one time at a light in the middle of the night in fricking Denver. Two. So it's a seven-lane wide highway. I count that as a big one. With a bleaking yellow. Like Colorado drivers are insane. Yeah, that place is terrible. Terrible to drive in. Alright. Well, let us know in the comments or find us anywhere else on social. But I want to know, do you think you could land the plane? Because I don't think it's that insane to believe that I could land a plane. My best friend's little brother is a pilot, and I I almost I guarantee you I could call Alex right now and he could be like, you could do it. Call him. I don't have the but Alex, if you're listening to this, by the way, congratulations. He did he got his pilot's license uh, I think within the last year, he can fly solo yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow, that's sick.
SPEAKER_01:Can I land a plane? Jordan Hyder can fly a plane. Like, come on. But they they have training, correct? Doesn't matter. You don't know that in a previous life I wasn't a pilot on like the first. Why do they even have the pilot's license?
SPEAKER_02:They should just see how confident the people are. All right, this guy's pretty confident. Get him a height of airline.
SPEAKER_01:I gotta have some cajones to want to be.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a component. That's not the end all be all. You have to have confidence. It's never a perfect equation, Sam. You have a vastly imperfect equation. I do.
SPEAKER_01:Which means that I will take control of the variables of that equation I can control. One of them being believing in myself that I can land that plane.
SPEAKER_02:Sure, I'm close to the life raps on that plane.
SPEAKER_03:Life raps, you're not getting out of the way. We're gonna blow up and die.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what do you want? Well, maybe you take us away. Speaking of blowing up and dying, let's try this uh this berry thing here. Yeah, it's we've all been dissolved. Umit. So walk us through this.
SPEAKER_03:I have zero zero confidence this works. Yeah, zero confidence?
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it's gonna work. Because I just sipped my coffee, it tasted the exact same. Okay, I'll start with the grapefruit. You know how good grapefruits are for your uh your gut?
SPEAKER_00:Oh wow. It's like lemonade. It is, but like it's still sour. I mean it's sweeter. Try that lemon. The grapefruit's sweeter. It's like uh overly sugared lemonade.
SPEAKER_03:I don't like that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it does taste like it tastes like lemon cello. Can you throw me one of those sour uh balls? The blue raspberry? Yeah, this will be a good test. Smoking it. It's weird, it doesn't make it better. It just makes it different.
SPEAKER_01:You're right though, it is sweeter. So these are supposed to be sour?
SPEAKER_00:It tastes like stink bugs. Stink bugs. No, the smell of stink bugs. I'm not gonna, I actually have no idea what a stink bug smells like. That's it. Like sour meal.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's pretty dull.
SPEAKER_03:Let's try the vinegar. You could you know, everyone watching hopefully know what this a stink bug smells like. That's what it tastes like right now. That's weird. I just want to put that out there.
SPEAKER_01:It's weird. It's a weird description. I mean, you do eat with your nose, so like I get in your eyes. But it's weird. Yeah. I've never killed a stink bug and smelled it. I usually suck them up with a vacuum or like shoo them.
SPEAKER_03:It's still sour to me.
SPEAKER_01:It was yeah, it was sour 100%. Give me the ACV. I'm a big fan. I take a swig Joe. This might be a health hack for you, you're gonna like too. I mean, granted, we don't get sick. Um, I don't. People get sick, they land planes. A C V helps regulate your blood sugar. So if you aren't taking you can take apple cider vinegar a swig of it in the morning, it actually helps with your uh with your blood sugar regulation. Really? Uh yeah. I think I found I've been doing it for years. It's great. I gotta spit this out. Wow. That's weird. That's weird. It's massively helpful for the base this apple cider vinegar. I will say though, the shitty part is it gets in the throat, it's the exact same. Yeah, I can feel the burn. And like the grossness. I'm telling you, this tastes like sweet.
SPEAKER_00:This is weird. It did taste better on the front end, Joe. Try a sip of the one of the vinegars. It's not bad.
SPEAKER_04:Try this.
SPEAKER_00:Let him be weird over here in the white cleaning vinegar. It's not clean. It's only 5% acidity. It's actually no white vinegar. That's interesting. White vinegars.
SPEAKER_03:It doesn't taste as bad.
SPEAKER_00:Not going in, right?
SPEAKER_03:You know what's weird. I I smell it. I can smell the the smell I don't like, and then it tastes completely different.
SPEAKER_01:So so I mean, I I don't know if we're rating this or what we're doing, but I will say definitely dampens the taste of this. You're I'm like right now though, I'm you're getting the gut burn. You're getting that belly, huh? Getting that blood sugar regulated. I don't think I would voluntarily like want to eat that. It ruined my flavor of sparkling water.
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't taste like that. No, I don't want to try a pickle.
SPEAKER_03:Actually, uh is it gonna ruin the I love pickles, so try that. It eliminates the um they can't taste it.
SPEAKER_02:You can't taste the pickle.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, why would you want to ruin that though? That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_01:I love a taste of a pickle.
SPEAKER_02:It's not about trying to make it better or worse. It's just kind of it's kind of like a drug for your mouth.
SPEAKER_01:It completely dampens and you can. Yeah, I don't want to. You can't taste the pickle. Oh, that ruins that. That's sad. Yeah. We love our pickles here in Pittsburgh. And um, Sam especially. Final boss. Big pickle guy. The amount this dude talks about pickles, Joe, it's at least weekly. Are you really opening that right now?
SPEAKER_00:It's the final boss, Joe. We can't just have it on the side. You can have that one yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You don't like sauerkraut.
SPEAKER_03:I like it.
SPEAKER_01:I only eat it because it's really good for your gut.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_01:I like I'm not I don't prefer it. You're you're Polish, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I think everybody that's Polish would also slap you for eating a can of sauerkraut.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_01:You're out of your mind. There's a lot of good like antimicrobial gut enzyme health that comes from like fermented fruits. I actually prefer kimchi. What is sauerkraut? Yeah, kimchi is just cabbage. It's like a fermented cabbage.
SPEAKER_04:Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh well, the one thing I don't like about sauerkraut is it's hit or miss on the it's like some of them have a lot of sugar.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I don't like the bavarian stuff, the sweet sauerkraut. Some of it, some of it's like really tart. Well, it like turns it into like bavarian sauerkraut. It's super sweet now, but this is just regular sauerkraut. I don't know. I give it a try if I it tastes like something. It tastes like something. I don't know what. It is though. It's a sweet though. That's weird. Yeah, super weird.
SPEAKER_00:I chock this one up as a success. This is this is nice. It was mildly enjoyable to try. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's weird.
SPEAKER_01:See, we went very extreme with like the things we were tasting. I'm curious to see how it does with like normal shit. Let's see if it gets rid of the taste. Can I get rid of the taste?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_01:Is that a good flavor or bad flavor?
SPEAKER_03:Bad flavor.
SPEAKER_01:You don't like that one?
SPEAKER_03:No, I don't. Is it a gift? From Jeff.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, why are you eating it if it wasn't as bad? It's a shame you have the citrus ones. That'd be a weird one to try.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it does take like I have a black coffee here. It takes a little bit of the actually, no, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways. A little bitterness sleeves.
SPEAKER_03:Moving on to our next topic. This was something that we'll actually pop up a clip of the debate, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We'll let it roll. Yeah, so so um before Joe goes into it, um, once a month we do a happy hour live stream uh in the Builder Bunker with our community. And we go live, Sam and I uh in the guise of Joe's doing, if Joe's involving himself or not, uh indulge in some drinks that you guys either send us or we find some fun stuff sometimes, sometimes just normal. And uh this previous Friday, the topic of video games came up.
SPEAKER_03:We really went in depth about what was a better system, I think, for the time, the Nintendo 64 or the GameCube. Um John kind of slighted the GameCube, which was a cause for concern for a lot of us. No, I didn't kind of slight it.
SPEAKER_00:The GameCube. Oh, there it is. Come on now.
SPEAKER_03:And so we were going back and forth of what was the better system? I mean, like what had better games? And granted, the Nintendo 64 was awesome. I mean, we really we were getting a little heated for a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, I easily my age jumped out quickly in that conversation. The chat had my back though. Like the chat? Kind of not really.
SPEAKER_03:We gotta get you a LASIK appointment or prescription shop shades.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you guys need hearing we do have prescription shop shades. Um, uh, please grab yourself a pair. We actually have our brand new frames in pre-sale right now, cheapest they'll ever be, and limited availability. They are called the Protector. So check those out.
SPEAKER_03:Just how jokes are being the Nintendo 64 with his whole life.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so basically where I come from here, let me let me lay my argument out is that growing up, you know, I'm from I'm 37, going on 38, non-cell phone uh era child, right? No iPads, uh computers where like you had to you had to like sell a kidney in order to get one. This is like Macintosh era life, okay? So the video game console, and it's I'm burping up weird shit from that now. It's like the taste coming back out, not sweet. I got pickle and sauerkraut, I got the freaking fruit in there. It's weird. The console itself, the dictation of what actual games was coming from the console was by far superior to like what the console did. When N64 came out, I absolute game changer, right? I think Sega Genesis was a little bit earlier. There was Atari, um, there was NES, and the N64 console for me is by far like one of the most impactful consoles on my like preteen years. And the conversation, these guys were like hyping GameCube, saying how like Smash Bros. was great and like all of these games that were elevations of what was established on 64. And my argument is that 64 paved the way so the shitty ass GameCube could exist, right? But GameCube fell off so fast that like I think that is validation that like no one now is trying to play GameCube. You have a generation of people that still to this day are hunting down N64s and having them in their homes.
SPEAKER_02:That that last statement there that's just fun.
SPEAKER_01:No, it was literally my friend's house last week and we were playing N64. How old is he? He's my age, he's 37.
SPEAKER_02:All right, I I think it's more so an age thing we're getting uh uh hung up on here. But you can't say that no one cares about it. Like that console was so impactful. They had GameCube ports on the Wii and they made the Wii backwards compatible because they do this.
SPEAKER_01:They knew how shitty the the GameCube was and they had to make Wii compatible with it in order to make people feel like they were getting their money.
SPEAKER_03:I think the Wii was so shitty they were trying to make it uh replica of the GameCube.
SPEAKER_02:That's weird they didn't have an N64 adapter for the GameCube. Yeah, like you gotta make sure these guys can still play their games.
SPEAKER_03:They went from cartridge to disc sand.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Another pro for the GameCube. Nintendo 64 had some banger games. Yeah, no one didn't.
SPEAKER_01:You're like you're saying it as if GameCube. But you what are your all right list? Give me the banger games for GameCube.
SPEAKER_02:GameCube. Super Smash Brothers Melee, Zelda Wind Waker, Wind Waker? Oh my god. That's one of your biggest arguments for the N64.
SPEAKER_00:By far superior. Mario Kart. I could agree with that, but that's not what we're arguing. N64. Yeah, but Mario Kart was way better on the Earth.
SPEAKER_03:No, it wasn't. Oh, way better. All they did was make it look better. The graphics are way. That's what made it better. The graphics were better.
SPEAKER_00:It was like Nintendo's first 4A into like 3D gaming, and then And it did look better. But it what that didn't make it a better console.
SPEAKER_03:Resident Evil 4 was on GameCube.
SPEAKER_02:The GameCube allowed you to they had a Game Boy player that you would attach to it so you could play Game Boy Advanced games on your TV.
SPEAKER_01:GameCube was just trying to hodgeponch a bunch of bullshit together to make it seem like it had value. It was absolute trash.
SPEAKER_02:Uh just so just so we're clear, I think the N64 is a phenomenal console. I think if you were to say the N64 and the GameCube, oh, that's a close one. I think I personally like the N64 a little bit better. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even have anything to say. It's the fact that you were like, oh, the GameCube can't even like the N64 is on a pedestal of the GameCube. It is.
SPEAKER_01:I'm putting and I'm putting GameCube on a C tier, N64 on A tier, if I'm ranking it. For just a what tier? For console. A C tier? As far as impact on video gaming as a whole as far as impact on a generation in regards to their life changing. That's wrong. It's not wrong at all. Smash Bros impacted a generation.
SPEAKER_02:That that game was.
SPEAKER_01:But that's it. But that impacted the generation. That's it. Dude, GameCube was just a cartoony play on video games. It made them childish and cartoony. Pikmin, Pikmin 2.
SPEAKER_02:What the f is a Pikmin? Luigi's Mansion. Pikmin was one of the biggest games on the Nintendo GameCube.
SPEAKER_01:Which was so small and no one ever fing heard about it.
SPEAKER_02:To be fair, both the GameCube and the N64 did not sell very well compared compared to their competitors. But we love them as Nintendo consoles.
SPEAKER_01:Are you talking about like Sony and Xbox?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they came out significantly later, one.
SPEAKER_02:No, the uh PlayStation 1 and the N64 were released at the same time. And the PlayStation 1. Give me the numbers. And the same thing with the PS2 and the game game. Look that up. The PlayStation 1 was out when the N64 was, right?
SPEAKER_01:But like the way I look at it is N64 brought a significant quality of gaming experience that didn't exist previously.
SPEAKER_03:94. And then 64 came out in 96. So yeah, the PlayStation 1 was already out.
SPEAKER_02:I like I said, it's a good it's a great console. I'm not saying the N64. I know like so many of my friends that have one just to play those old N64 games, but uh no one's keeping a GameCube around to do that.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna say, oh, because you can play them on whatever stupid console Nintendo has.
SPEAKER_00:They they're control even if we own a Switch. I own a Switch because of you guys.
SPEAKER_01:The thing that sat uncharged.
SPEAKER_03:You could have left it here. You tried playing that for a day.
SPEAKER_02:I know you. Even just like if you like focused it on like individual aspects of it, like the GameCube's controller is so timeless that it literally used it for decades after. The N64 controller, it's interesting, but they make new ones that are like regular controllers.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, the N64 controller revolutionary. It's it's it's all the GameCube did was take the PlayStation controller and make it Nintendo.
SPEAKER_02:No, they didn't it's a completely different controller. You have your joystick, C stick, and your D-pad in the bottom left, and then the PlayStation, you have two joysticks and made it Nintendo.
SPEAKER_00:No look at that tri the beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_02:It looks like it has a dick.
SPEAKER_03:It's beautiful. Tri-deck that is disgusting. Like to say that's convenient to hold and use is is nuts. I didn't say it was convenient, I said it was revolutionary.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think it's a different thing. I think like revolutionary needs. But why did they put it in the middle then?
SPEAKER_02:Why do you have to hold one handle like the colour?
SPEAKER_01:They were figuring it out. It was the first joystick.
SPEAKER_02:They did figure it out with this.
SPEAKER_01:All they did was copy PlayStation and switch a d-pad. Pull up the app next to a PlayStation controller. It was just a copycat. It looks like market research was already done. It looks nothing like a PlayStation controller. Oh yeah, it's night and day. Joystick controller, Joe. Give it to me. That's the PlayStation 1.
SPEAKER_03:No, go to the joystick on the two. On the what? Oh, you mean the PlayStation 2 controller? Yeah. It's the same thing as the one except it has joysticks. Exactly. That's all Nintendo's the button layout's different. There's two shoulder buttons on the code. These were very different controllers. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:This is more in the vein of an Xbox controller. They made it Nintendo-y. It's like childish. It's got it's colorful, it's stupid. It's for kids.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it actually their marketing was genius because they released the GameCube in both extremely subtle colors, like black and gray, but then they also had purple and orange. So you could be young, a young whippers snapper and be like, I want the colorful one, or you could be an older man and say, I'd like to pick up.
SPEAKER_01:There was a single exclusive game to the GameCube that I would that like that people rave about. Like they're all Super Smash Bros.
SPEAKER_02:melee.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Smash Bros. John.
SPEAKER_02:007 Nightfire.
SPEAKER_01:No. See, the 007 doesn't Goldeneye is the is it.
SPEAKER_02:GoldenEye is excellent, and GoldenEye, like it paved the way, but I'm saying there's a lot of things. But no one's arguing.
SPEAKER_01:You're the only person arguing for Limewire or whatever you're saying. Limewire. Limewire. Where did you get LimeWire from?
SPEAKER_02:Nightfire. Lightfire. Nightfire. Nightfire is great. Nightfire was like the closest thing.
unknown:You never heard of it?
SPEAKER_02:No, never heard of it. It was like the closest thing you could play to like a uh like a Call of Duty first person level shooter for the GameCube. It was so much fun. The multiple thing.
SPEAKER_03:I would say that Zelda Wind Waker was elite. Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time was a great game.
SPEAKER_01:I would argue I like properties more. And 64 takes the crown. On a better game.
SPEAKER_03:They're very different properties.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, I'm just saying, no, they're not.
SPEAKER_03:You have 007. But all your explanations, they clearly are. You're saying one's more cartoon-esque, the other one's not. One's very functional, one's not. One's stupid and meant for kids, the other one's not. Very different. Very, very different.
SPEAKER_01:They're no different. The games are, yes. The consoles are, yes. But I was saying about the property, you have 007 on two platforms. Yes, and two both of them. You're saying the second iteration was better. So you're speaking more from a graphic which GameCube had better graphics, so therefore it would be. It was a frickin' CD.
SPEAKER_02:Mini C D you you could bring that up as a flaw with it, but it probably was better. Quicker loading times on those little discs, though.
SPEAKER_01:You also had the then you're also saying um the Zelda franchise, which the first one was better than the second. I I would agree with that, but that's not what we're arguing. You're just saying the fact it existed made it good. It's better experience. We're arguing about the console, it's not that game. You were just, oh, it looks better, so it's better. That's a component. A component of the uh the algorithm here. Dude, they didn't like like those games didn't exist before that console. You weren't playing them on anything else. Yeah, but so you can't.
SPEAKER_03:Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'll that's why it's such a better console. My last point, I'll leave it at this, and why I think the GameCube's a little bit better. Smash Bros. why it was so important. You could have a party with all your friends over and do tournaments of four people at the same time. Yeah. And you could play that the whole entire night. It was fun. Nintendo 64, what do they have like that that brought together?
SPEAKER_01:You're right. So, like for me, that's why I'm like, community aspect of it 100%. That's my that was like when we were having the argument on our live stream. It's like that's what Xbox was for me. Yeah. I just decided to put it 64 versus uh GameCube. Yeah. Right? But Xbox for me is the same thing. It's like I was a teenager when I got an Xbox. I was eight when I got an N64. Yeah. Right? So it's like diff my life is in completely different eras. Very and you guys were playing as teenagers a GameCube.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, that was my first ever console. That was uh I was in single digits. Yeah, I played a GameCube up until I was like 13, and then I uh went to an Xbox 360. So I feel like I feel like you should always start with a Nintendo console.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like the Game Boy Color for me was a better console than the GameCube. That's not even a I it just was. It was like more fun. Like I there wasn't I every time I played a GameCube, I didn't enjoy it. It was just didn't do it for me. This is like I also am not a huge fan of Nintendo's properties or games at all in general. Like I like to like love Mario.
SPEAKER_03:I think the but the the rhythm was you got a GameCube, at least maybe for Sam and I. You bought an Xbox 360, and then you went back to PlayStation.
SPEAKER_02:I stopped once I could drive, like I lost all interest in video games. I was like, well, it was a good run while it lasted.
SPEAKER_01:I played video games like all through college because you would we had nothing to do at night. So always Xbox for me. But let us know what you guys think. Obviously, I'm team N64, and the boys are team GameCube. I don't think this is I think I think you guys are gonna get destroyed. Depends on the age of the beat. Let's see if we can do a poll on that.
SPEAKER_03:How are we gonna get destroyed for something we've preferred? I mean, that is true.
SPEAKER_02:You're just gonna be Well, and to be fair, Joe and I were both very very respectful towards the N60s. Neither one of us are like, that's a dog shit concept. It was a great console. I told you already that was. But they're like neck and neck. That's not one's way above the other. They're not even close to neck and neck.
SPEAKER_03:People like you that grew up on it will probably agree, but people like Sam and I will agree.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's yeah, you got your generation has no respect for anything old except for salmon cars. I mean it's straight up.
SPEAKER_02:But that's a good that's a good equivalent, right? There's a lot of it.
SPEAKER_01:Your generation likes nothing old. That'd be like they just don't. That'd be like the punny I'm spoiled. You grew up with a phone. Where we're suffering through the wrongdoings of a whole generation. Do you ever have to go through an encyclopedia to find information? Yeah, actually. Your generation's a when I bought a house, interest rates were 1.99%. No, not mine. My generation can't afford a house. You're thinking about my generation. My parents are boomers.
SPEAKER_02:Are they really? Yeah. So are mine. Really? They really are. That's nice. I love this dynamic here. Yeah, I knew they were. You're an elder millennial, you're a Gen Z, and I'm like right in the I'm right on the cusp. We got all three levels here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I think Joe's getting pushing it with a boomer comment. You could buy a house for the price of an apple. Like, no, Joe. Not even not even close.
SPEAKER_02:Well, but you but you guys, you guys, well, uh, I don't know, actually, you might not be old enough. Purchasing a house before 08, whenever they were just like, what do you do for a living? It's like they didn't care. Yeah, no, I was in college.
SPEAKER_01:I remember literally being in the facility when the market crashed, and my buddy texts me and he's like, he's like, today's gonna go down in history. Just wanted to let you know because I know you pay attention to nothing. And I was like, oh, thanks, buddy. And then it was. It was marked as uh yeah, the day the market crashed. So yeah, let us know what side do you fall on? Don't let these two young pricks make you feel bad for being old. They uh they cost you like the hardest.
SPEAKER_03:We love the Nintendo 64 here. We're open to all gaming systems, yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:That shit. Um we, I think that can kick rocks too. That being said, as we're talking about things that are old, we've got an interesting question here coming up in regards to nostalgia, right? And some childhood takes. Um Joe posed the question to Sam and I, and we thought it was pretty good, so we're bringing it into the to the episode. But what did you feel like as a kid just had like that elite that was like an elite status symbol that meant like you were rich? Anything to jump out to you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I I would say a Tuscan style kitchen. A Tuscan. Whenever I was whenever I was growing up, when you would walk into a house and they'd have a kitchen with like giant fluted columns, and there's all these like brass uh like grapes and ornate things just hung from the wall, you're like, wow, they they made it. Because I feel like because I grew up, I was born in '96, so I feel like you'd either see that, or you'd go in a house with a kitchen with just all just oak, just cathedral style doors, and like a green countertop, and it's like, all right, you're one of us. But then you walk into that Tuscan style kitchen, Tuscan kitchen, be like, whoa, you guys got some money to throw around.
SPEAKER_01:That was Primo. And then you had that who was that artist that everyone loved? They still sell his shit at Costco. Um, just look up like most famous painter from the 90s. Like almost like he was the Emerald Legossi of painting. Like Emerald was on everything, right? So you know, like the cooking show. Thomas Kincaid, yes. Uh I get served like a bunch of like hilarious memes on short form where it's like you knew you were rich in the 90s, Tuscan Kitchen, number one, Thomas Kincaid paintings everywhere, number two. I think another one was like drapes, like you literally just had them, you were rich.
SPEAKER_03:Two things. One, I think if you had like a dedicated ice maker, I think like years ago machine, yeah. Not not a part of your fridge or your freezer, like dedicated machine. I was always like, oh wow, like yeah, the little cubed ice, you only can get a Chick-fil-A around here at least. Yeah, it's just kind of like wow, like geez, that's that's expensive. That and then honestly, it was more or less like I feel like when I grew up, a lot of parents were like strict about like not overeating, maybe like don't you don't eat all the sugar, all these snacks. We went to someone's house, and you could have like whatever you want, whenever they wanted.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, oh wow, like they got it like you're talking like dunkaroo, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like they have every every top-tier snack cereal, like you know, they're ordering pizza too if you're still hungry, making sure you're well fed. That to me was like a shit, like yeah, you like they really got it. Like, you know, my my mom was real big into pizzas and stuff when people would come over, and that was phenomenal. But you go to like some of my buddies' houses, and it's just like these little sugary snacks that like aren't needed, but you would just have an abundance of, which was just wow, where am I?
SPEAKER_01:I grew up in an Italian-American house, so our snacks were not the same. We were a lot of charcuterie. Like I didn't realize that like a salami. I didn't realize like eating salami as a snack wasn't normal in another house, right? And I'm actually glad now because it's like, oh, you know, we didn't do much of that. I uh couple things for me. So, like one, I grew up in a house, we had a one-car garage, and so parking in that garage was never an option, right? Like, I still don't park in my own garage, and I have a multiple garages. My truck doesn't fit. Um so like that was one thing. Like, if you and it wasn't necessarily the parents, but if you as the kid could park in the garage, you your family had money. Because it was either a three-car, right, or the garage was clean enough that you could park shit in it. Yeah, right. So it was like like us folks that were you know lower middle class, you had workbenches, torn apart motorcycles, and and lawn mowers and weed whackers and shit hanging from the ceiling. You had all your storage or stuff was jammed in there, right? My dad had all kinds of junk hanging around. He still does, like he just fills up a garage. He's he's elite at it. Obviously, I am too. I got a 10,000 square foot building filled to the brim. And then two was was the was the um the second car. So, like if your dad had another car. It wasn't he didn't just have his daily driver, but he had like a BMW or a sports car or something like that. Yeah. Like the you were like it didn't matter what your house looked like, it didn't matter what your clothes looked like. It was like you had money. You were you were rich. Yeah, that you had that second car. Um and now now looking at it, it's like my talking to my my wife's dad is a is a car collector. He has like 15 cars. He was telling me about like in the 90s, he was buying like five cars at a time, but they were like a thousand to two thousand dollars a car. Yeah, and then he was like Frankensteining one car out of it. He told me about the summer of midgets he called it, and he bought a bunch of the cars called a midget. Oh yeah, right, and he needed parts from them, so he bought seven midgets in one summer in order to get one midget to run. But it's hilarious because when you talk about it that way, it doesn't sound like it. You bought seven cars in the summer, yeah. What? But he was like, Yeah, this one was six hundred bucks, this one was three hundred bucks. And you're like, you could get a car for that price. Yeah. Wow. So, like, I but at the time I didn't realize like you could have some like as Sam calls my vehicle, a Jalopy. Um, and but I was thinking you were freaking rich because you had that extra car that just kind of like sits there and never gets driven, right? That that was one thing for me. And then I'm also I'm gonna validate the Tusc uh Tuscan chicken, the Tuscan kitchen. That's good because like if you had a remodeled Tuscan kitchen, whoo! Yeah, you were living it. And then also around here, we're in Pittsburgh. The last thing I'll say is a finished basement. Yeah, yeah, that's a big one. There's a a lot of the homes here, middle class homes, unfinished basements. But if you had a finished basement, you were you were killing it. Like you could go down there, there was carpet, there was drywall, perhaps a television.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, finished basement was a big thing.
SPEAKER_01:We didn't grow up with a we didn't have a basement in the house I grew up in.
SPEAKER_03:That's actually a good point.
SPEAKER_01:Basement with a bar, TV, anything. Literally, drywall and not just studs and in a in a washing machine toilet room. Yeah. You didn't have your Pittsburgh toilet, like you were you were you were killing it.
SPEAKER_02:You know another one, I think it's probably died out by now. You ever see those homes have the wall vacuums? Like it's just like flip open a thing.
SPEAKER_01:Those are coming back. What? Why? On like new builds. Oh, really? People will get a whole home vacuum. Yeah, well, because the CFM of a whole home vacuum is significantly better than like the push. Yeah, you also don't have to like run cans of the trash. That is true. Supposedly there's a lot of like there's a lot of like science to the air uh quality and stuff around.
SPEAKER_03:My parents have one in their house. Yeah, do they?
SPEAKER_01:They built it in 2000. It was a big thing.
SPEAKER_03:That and heated floors.
SPEAKER_01:Heated floors, that's another one. Yeah. Heated floors. Whoo! Now, heated driveways nowadays.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Like that's a sign of eliteness now. Yeah, that's nuts. Right? There's there's like I don't need to go shovel snow, I'm just gonna turn my driveway heater on. Insane. That's insane. So I wanted to touch on Joe's comment though with the snacks. Yeah. Because there was categories of snacks as a kid that that took things to another level. So I had I had buddies that like they were insane snack houses, right? Capri suns. Yeah, Capri Suns were up there elite. Loaded Capri Suns, right? Dunkaroos. I don't know if you guys ever got to experience that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're familiar with that.
SPEAKER_01:You were a Dunkaroo, right? You had um the Kool-Aid, but the Kool-Aid like in a it was in a bottle that was plastic. Yeah, the twist off cat. Twist off cat. Just gas that like bottle of sugar out of that. That thing would squeezy, yeah. Absolutely. Uh bagel bites. So irresponsible. So we were more pizza roll people, which I will fight you on. Pizza rolls are I'll throw it out there to the to the audience. Pizza rolls over bagabites are bagel bites 100% of the time. Pizza rolls are in another category over bagel bites all day.
SPEAKER_03:Why don't they comment below what they think instead of us sitting here debating? Yeah. Man, those SpongeBob elite. You go to the pool. Oh, yeah. You know, the community pool, and they'd have those Spongebob popsicles, you had a great day.
SPEAKER_01:We had to get them from the um the ice cream trucks.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, or an ice cream truck.
SPEAKER_01:That was funny. Lunchables in volume, you were rich. Like if you had a stack of lunchables in the fridge, yeah, we would get one and eat that shit in the in the way from the door to the car.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Before we got into it as kids.
SPEAKER_02:And we'd get like one a year. Yeah, that was a good one. I remember going to school. You'd always know the kid that had the lunchables every day. It's like he was doing well for himself. Yeah, you guys do well.
SPEAKER_01:You're like, meanwhile, now you're like, I would way take this homemade meal mother prepared me. But like at the time, you're like, I want that.
SPEAKER_03:See, when I was in grade school, another status sign was like you could buy lunches every day at grade school. Like you get an allotment or whatever, you get like the cafeteria lunch, and then they also had a snack table. And like it was like a big thing for us to where like one of my buddies would bring in ten dollars their mom gave them. He'd buy a round of ice cream for specific people, and like those people got a round of ice cream.
SPEAKER_02:Those people had ice cream on me.
SPEAKER_03:Every get everyone. Not for everybody. It was like very much like a if you were nice to that person, you were one of the select few that got ice cream for that day. And so it was like uh you'd be sad or happy. Yeah, no, no, he was like our oh man, um, I'm not gonna say his name, but he's uh in medical school, lives with my brother right now. Yeah. Uh very successful. But like that was like one of those things that was just like one everybody did it. It was multiple people, it was like a get back thing. Like, oh, I didn't get ice cream that day. I'm bringing in ten bucks and I'm buying it for these people now. It was like a a very back and forth. It was actually super sick, but was it? It was looking back on it, it's like damn, like, you know, at a young age, we were already going through it.
SPEAKER_01:Like we had a uh we had a snack stand in middle school, and I remember I would get a I'd get a warm chocolate chip cookie and a lime tea cooler every day. Oh, yeah, it's like two dollars. Two dollars, and I'd come walking up and the and the lady knew me every day, so she would just rabbit ready, rock and roll. Oh, those were the days.
SPEAKER_02:See, I I used to love I I bought lunch most of my uh uh scholastic career and in elementary school. We used to have the nicest lunch ladies who'd be like, Oh, hi Sam, how are you doing today? Having a lovely day. I'm like, Oh, I I am, thank you. You get to middle school, that shit all changed. They have a keypad there. I'm like, hi, I'm Sam. Put your lunch number in. I'm like 700294. I don't know. You still remember it? Yeah. They burned burn it in your head. You had to use it through middle school and high school. You have to think every single day I'd go in and punch that number in. Like, wow. It's like a prison number. Do you remember like your locker code? No. My lunch number.
SPEAKER_03:No, I had no idea. I always had it backwards when I was like in high school and grade school. I always thought packing a lunch meant you couldn't afford the school lunch. And then as I got older, I realized no, like, probably parents just didn't want you having that bad food.
SPEAKER_01:They they cared more to, you know, it's we had a flip for me because it was a it was a mostly my mom uh would pack us lunch, but then when we got to high school, the volume in which Jeffrey and I were eating was just unreal. So she's like, I can't match your the quantity you're just easier to get it at square. Because at my school had a lot of uh it was like a buffet, so you could load your shit. Like Thursdays were pasta day. Bro, pasta day. You'd take your little, you have your tray and then you'd take your plate and you put it on there, and I would fill the tray with pasta. Just remember me and my buddy Aaron. I mean, and you'd walk out of there and it'd be a mountain, and it would be three dollars. Like they it was whatever they charged or whatever. I I still to this day think that that was like that was just getting one over on the school. But yeah, no, so I'm with you though. You always thought you were like broke because you were packing lunch, and then you realize your poor poor my poor parents just trying to feed two two grazing cattle, child children. Yeah, growing boys is tough to feed. But the 300-pound like teenage boy, yeah, the volume of food I was eating probably unreal, unbelievable. And you gotta eat more and more as you get older. Oh, yeah, and you're trying to grow, like you didn't care in high school what kind of like as an athlete what you were eating, you're just eating to eat. Then you get to college and they're like, let's let's let's pull this back a little bit. Yeah, we need you to get a fat little piglet, you know, like get some protein in there, right? Um, but you know, like you you could eat whole pizzas and just nothing phases you. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I remember around like 08, whenever they did all those reforms to the uh the cafeteria lunch program, they're like that we gotta get the caloric intake down, and you'd think they'd be like, Oh, we're gonna give them healthier foods. They started slicing portions. It's like yeah, charging more slicing portions. Yeah, it was awful.
SPEAKER_03:That was some bullshit. But well, keeping that childhood energy but making it a little bit more competitive. I came across this on X the other day. I thought it was hilarious trying to find some topics. There was like this debate going on at who would win in a in a fight, Vecna or Pennywise. And I thought it posed an interesting question of like two villains who have played by phenomenal actors. Like, if they were to fight in this instance that's hypothetical, who do you have coming out on top between those two? I think the answer is easy for myself, but I would love to hear you two.
SPEAKER_02:Um I guess just my my gut. I'm gonna go with Pennywise. Yeah. I'm gonna say Pennywise just because I don't know. After finishing Stranger Things, I kinda I mean Vecna was scary and everything, but I feel like I feel like they didn't really finish as strong as they could have. Pennywise, though. Which Pennywise are we talking about? The new one or the uh who's the guy that played the original one? Um I don't even Stephen Curry. I haven't watched it. Tim Curry. Tim Curry.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know who plays them. I haven't seen either. Like I'm you haven't seen either? No, I've never seen a Pennywise. I don't do horror films. I think they're stupid. Um yeah, but this one's good. You never saw the original film. I'm taking I'm taking Mike, Michael Myers or Jason. They're they're those. They're not even adding people to your list take that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Your list. Vecna's pussy, so is Pennywise. Whoa. Pennywise Jason all day.
SPEAKER_03:Pennywise is dog walking Vecna.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, Vecna wouldn't even go. I don't even know what uh dude, what is Pennywise's like thing? He doesn't he kidnap children? Yeah, they both have kids. I don't know. Let's just propagate the kidnapping. No, we're not.
SPEAKER_03:Let's step back and acknowledge how weird that is that both of those you know evil villains do that. It's a little strange. Yeah. But if they had to fight each other.
SPEAKER_01:At least Jason and Michael Myers were killing deep girls, you know.
SPEAKER_03:You know something I that doesn't make it any better.
SPEAKER_01:That's better than Jack.
SPEAKER_03:When I was a teenager, it was better than both bad their own ways.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't realize until recently uh that the guy that played Freddie Krueger was in Stranger Things. He was Vecna's dad. Was he? Yeah, the guy that has yeah, that's the guy who plays Freddie Kruger.
SPEAKER_01:Jeff likes some horror horror flicks. I know you like horror flicks. I'm not a big horror guy.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I think I don't really I watched the first two hits. I never watched the news show that just came out that Darren.
SPEAKER_02:Neither did I.
SPEAKER_03:I just think like villain for villain, Pennywise is dog walking Vecna. I just think it's like one of those things that's like Vecna wouldn't even go in a cave. He wouldn't go in a cave for a whole season.
SPEAKER_02:Well yeah, and you know, Vecna's thing too. Just walk everywhere. They'd be like, oh God, he's coming to get us, and he just Pennywise will scurry. He will run quickly. You know, he'd be, oh yeah. Stepping on your ass. Yeah, he's bad. He's gonna be a lot of fast twitch muscle fiber.
SPEAKER_03:He's gonna play games with it, like with you too, like mental games, yeah. Thinking things, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I just I've literally never seen a single Pennywise problem. You should come here, Georgie. And he goes on great original. I've just seen the commer I've seen the commercials of him looking out of a great the memes of those are elite though. I I just like dude, horror doesn't do it for me. There's nothing not like a horror plot. I don't think it's I just don't find it entertaining. I live I played with a dude, my roommate in college, like Dorn Dickerson. Shout out to Dorne on the radio now, Pittsburgh. He loves horror movies. And when we lived together, he would watch them on replay all year loud, all year round. Like he and when when Halloween comes, go look at his Twitter feed, uh Joe. Yeah, what he's talking about. He just the dude just loves them. I could never get into him though. He was always trying to get me into him.
SPEAKER_02:Neither am I, and I'm surprised you're not because I feel like it was a lot bigger in the early 2000s. It was for some reason.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know why it was. I feel like though, horrors lost with the movie in-person movie theater experience being lost. Like I feel like in theater, that was like a way different experience.
SPEAKER_03:We're seeing a lot of the same structures, I think, too, of horror movies of just like repeat. Yeah, it's just the same flow and structure of like you have this family or person that is tormented by X, Y, or Z, and then it's just like some crazy thing happens and then it's resolved at the end, and then you know, someone dies or they live happily ever after.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I feel like we don't see much more of like a the last horror flick that really the whole it actually fed up a generation. What was the one um where they were just in the woods and it was like self-filmed? Oh, the Blair Witch project GOAT. The Blair Witch was like when I was a kid. That was like when horror flip, like if you were watching it at my age when I watched it, you weren't supposed to be.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it like messed you up pretty good. What year was that? 99?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I'd have been like 11, 10, 11. I'm watching that movie at 10 or 11 years old. Like you were effed up, right? The little girl, that was when she was like crawling out of the TV and like attacking it. Yeah. Yeah. So that that that was probably like the end of me watching horror. Like, I don't know if I could tell you another horror movie I've watched, unless it was categorized as something else and ended up being horror. Yeah. Um, but that that one was like, it got you. It got you good. Was is like the sixth sense considered horror?
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, I guess it's like a thriller horror. Thriller. They're supposed to be doing another scary movie. I think it's like the way it's a big thing. Scary movie like seven this year, yeah. Owners look at Charlie Sheen.
SPEAKER_03:It's not a horror movie, but a movie. I don't know if you have you guys seen this before, end of watch. Yeah. No, Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah. How this was filmed was incredible. It's in more of an action movie, but where are you going with this? Just how how like Blair Witch project was filmed?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, in that first one.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's what makes it more just suspenseful.
SPEAKER_01:Before, like, you it was very inaccessible to your own story.
SPEAKER_03:Well that's how this was shot. It's like all like first person from like cops' perspective, the whole movie. You know, it's I'm not gonna spoil it. You should go watch it. It's actually a phenomenal film, but I think that makes it so much more real for people. But you don't see people getting creative by like.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, okay, let me let me paint a picture for you. Like, if you're my age, you're like 35 to 40, when you were 10 to 12, 13, you were playing in the woods for entertainment. Like we, Jeffrey and I would I remember waking up for summers, we'd wake up, get yelled at, do something, get yelled at again, eat something, and then go outside from sun up till sundown. And we'd be doing whatever. We'd be in the woods, like you're and I mean you don't have cell phones, you have no communication. The only way we knew how to get home was my mom would whistle or my neighbor's mom would whistle. Right? So you knew you needed to come home because you'd listen to shh, right? Yeah, like the whole tongue whistle thing. I can't do it. Um, so with that being said, Blair Witch comes out, and like those woods are the woods that like I we're blinding. Yeah, right. So it was terrifying, and but then we're like idiots, so we're trying to find stuff like that, right? It was like that's like a gen like generationally before the internet, before making video became more accessible, yeah, and stuff. Like it was a wild change in like the dynamic, it was it was super revolutionary, and like that type of a horror does it for me. Like the sitting there and being like I like Jeepers Creepers was like big. That's that one. I've seen that one, yeah. Yeah, Jeff loves that property. That's like thinking that like my school, like there's all you you could be like a an um very undereducated child and see through every single horror movie plot line. Yeah, like, oh yeah, you shouldn't hide behind the chainsaws.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, you probably just shouldn't be on a bus. Did I hear a noise in the basement? Let me walk down into it without the lights working.
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, see, you might leave it. Like I'm a teenage girl at home by myself with no one protecting me. Maybe I should, I don't know, lock a door. Call somebody.
SPEAKER_02:See, I don't I don't like a lot of horror, but uh I can watch them and it's whatever. The only one that really does like disturb me is like body horror. You ever hear of the movie The Walrus with Justin Long?
SPEAKER_01:No, but Jigsaw was good.
SPEAKER_02:That's another one. What's the Jigsaw ones?
SPEAKER_03:Uh Jigsaw Saw. Saw Saw. Saw was Saw Saw 1, 2. Saw was I watched the newest Saw recently. Yeah, they're just beating it. A couple months ago. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I loved um it's more comedic but scary movie. I always love Saw. Oh, those are movies. Yeah, those are funny. I I like when they take horror movies and make them comical, just shit out of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, just because they are so just like exactly what you said. What about two classics? You love classics, like The Shining.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like the The Shining, uh I don't really, in my mind, I don't view as much as like a horror film. Yeah, I I I love The Shining, the Thriller. Yeah. So that's like you teeter that. Yeah, like the difference to you. I think that movies, pretty much like anything like Kubrick does, like I feel like movies like that, I feel un don't bring the director into it.
SPEAKER_01:What is the definition the difference between a horror and a and a thriller to you? Uh I need clarity for me.
SPEAKER_02:I think a horror movie it's intentionally trying to like scare you through different moments or visuals where I feel like a thriller you feel like a little on the edge of your seat or like unsettled throughout most of the film. Where like I feel like a horror movie, it's like there's nothing like long tail that I'm like, oh, is this gonna happen or is that gonna happen? But just like random scary stuff occurs. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Have you seen uh Netflix? What is it called? They have these interactive films on Netflix nowadays.
SPEAKER_02:You can like pick the path.
SPEAKER_03:You can pick the path. I think that's Black Mirror is the first thing. Black Mirror yes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, they have some of the Black Mirror is that's cool. Black Mirror is good. See, I I think that's the thing. I I enjoy stuff like Black Mirror. Like, I think anything that has like some lore and some thought, and like I said, I think it's kind of cool to feel a little unsettled when you're watching things, but just watching like a regular horror movie where it's like trying to scare you, yeah, it doesn't like do it for me. I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.
SPEAKER_03:Bandersnatch is an episode they have that's interactive.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I haven't got into Black Mirror.
SPEAKER_03:That's cool though. It's like you pick your paths and then you have different endings. Like that's that's super sick to me.
SPEAKER_01:I'm with you though. I want to be like thinking on the edge of my seat, like I can't quite figure out what's going on. Yeah, I feel like most classic or like just most horror movies in general are just like stupid slaughterfests.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Yeah, I'm just not a fan of that.
SPEAKER_00:You're just like you're like You know what's like an action we're gonna pair of run a bunch of kids over with a bus. You guys ever watch The Terrifier?
SPEAKER_02:No, and I get sort of clips of that all the time on TikTok. And that's too graphic. That's what I mean. I don't like because I feel like it almost hits a weird point for me when it's just like graphic for the sake of being graphic.
SPEAKER_03:It's like Yeah, I'm I'm with you there. I tried watching it. There was uh I'm not even gonna describe it. Just don't watch it. It's so silly.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways, not not into the horror stuff. You guys are into horror. What's your what's your favorite horror movie? Just lay it out there for us. Let us know in the comments. Um cool. Well, I'm flipping seven and six for the segue here because it's way better. So so as we're on the topic of movies, there's been a lot of this. I've been seeing a shit ton of this on the internet actually, and it is ranking the best Batman.
unknown:Oh god.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know why. Why is this so popular right now? But I'm getting Serbian.
SPEAKER_03:I think that Batman 2 is coming out today.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Robert Patterson?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and Patterson was solid in the first one. He was. So I think people are just like, who's the best? Like, yeah. And they're going down the rabbit hole.
SPEAKER_01:So I we've had this conversation before, but who you got?
SPEAKER_02:What are we defining as like when we say the best Batman, what does that mean?
SPEAKER_01:Who played the best?
SPEAKER_03:What do you say? No thought to it, out of the gate. You're gonna argue. When you hear someone say Batman, who do you first think of? Could Joe go first? I gotta think for a minute. Christian Bale. I think Chris, I hear Batman, I think Christian Bale. Fam's thinking Adam West all day.
SPEAKER_01:He just wants to see that those little blue tights.
SPEAKER_03:I think there's nothing like the Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. At least like that. I watched Batman Wise and was like, wow, I love that movie. Batman. I think the new Batman's pretty solid. Ben Affleck didn't do it for me. Robert Patterson was better than Affleck in my mind, some ways.
SPEAKER_01:Affleck had no depth, but I also think that the Affleck Batman is probably the closest portrayal to the disturbed aspect of what Bruce Wayne's actually supposed to be. Yeah, I agree with that. Affleck was completely shut off in that movie.
SPEAKER_03:I like the those movies. I like the status Christian Bale posed in his portrayal of like just like Uber rich, like you know, I bought the bank. I own the restaurant. The quotes like that I remember so vividly, and I'm like, yeah, that's Bruce Wayne.
SPEAKER_01:Like, that's I think uh okay, so who do you're we're gonna we're gonna let him simmer some more. I'm also going with Christian Bale. And like I'm with I remember you know what it does it for me with Christian Bale, besides the fact the movies are I think incredible. Like they went deep and dark for like that's what I think Nolan established the darkness of Batman in a way better context on the big screen with the Dark Knight. Now that's become a lot more popular, and that's like the Robert Pattinson version. That's exactly what they're trying to lean into. And I understand as like a pseudo-comic guy here, he's probably gonna be like that was around for a long time, like a dark, disturbed Batman. Yeah. But what I loved about Christian Bale was my favorite Batman's my favorite superhero, and it's because he's a human, right? He has no superpower, he just is rich, right? So that's elite. I'm I've always been a I've always loved Batman for that sake. Um and they literally leaned into that dynamic so well, like you were saying. But I remember distinctly like watching um, I can't remember if it was Batman McGins or The Dark Knight, it had to be Batman McGinnis, but when they were like establishing why his uh like costume looked the way it did, or why his uniform was, and it was like, you know, we had a spelunking expedition and we developed this body armor for these soldiers and like that kind of shit, where you're like, that's actually like got some realness to it. Like, yeah, that's believable. Like that part of Batman's facade for me. You're like, dude, I can imagine them coming up with some like you know, freaking spelunking, like you know, shooting this thing to go crazy, you know, drop down into a cave from this gun. Like, that makes sense. They never they never did that with any other Batman. There was no real reality in which those you know, weapons or tools, the tumbler, the development of the tumblr and like how they how they built it. I got one sitting right there in Lego form.
SPEAKER_03:Like yeah, you gotta add the Lego, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. We don't have a real Tumblr yet. I do have a buddy though that applied to get one of the 10 that they released.
SPEAKER_02:Joe Burrow owns one. Did he get the tumbler or did he get like the old school one?
SPEAKER_01:But that being said, so like I'm with you, Joe. Like that that that hits so hard for me. The realistic the realism to Batman in in those movies, and like you know, Nolan's a goat.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm I think I've chosen one that's not on this list, though. I'm gonna say I I really do I will say before I give mine, I like Christian Bale. I think Christian Bell's a phenomenal actor. I think those movies are great. I think he did a great job in those movies, and maybe it's just because I'm more into the comics, like like I really like all that, but like whenever you ask me who's the best Batman, like there has to be like more ties to like the comics for me to be like that one's the best. I'm gonna say Kevin Conroy. Kevin Conroy is the best Batman. He's not a well, he actually did do one brief live action portrayal as him, but he's the voice of Batman. He's not on this list.
SPEAKER_01:Did he do this the voice? He's the voice in that animated series.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, not just in that, literally in everything. Batman the animated series, Batman Beyond, the Arkham Asylum games.
SPEAKER_03:Is that him? Yeah. I love those games. Those games were sick.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean he I believe he passed away. Uh, but he was like Okay, that's a fine answer. He's like the voice of Batman. Like when I when you I think of Batman's voice, I hear Kevin. That's a shit answer.
SPEAKER_01:That's give me an actor that's in a movie.
SPEAKER_00:Pick one. If it has to be an actor in a movie.
SPEAKER_02:No man, poor poor George Nipple George. Yeah. I guess Val Kilmer. I it's it's a toss-up between Michael Keaton and Robert Pattinson. I don't know which one. I want to say yeah, I I'll give my justification for each. I'll give him a tie. You like Keaton because he's Ianzer? Among other things. I think that like You just love Keaton. I do love Robert uh or Michael Keaton. I I don't know. Just something about those movies. Like, that was the first ever Batman I saw was the 89 Batman. So maybe it's like this is like my N64 where it's like I just remember him. Like I remember him not being able to turn his neck. Like there's a also uh like I don't know. I I do think, yeah, I'm gonna say a tie between Michael Keaton, Robert Pattinson. No, you know if I I'll give it to Keaton. Michael Keaton, all the way. 1989, Michael Keaton. If I have to pick it up.
SPEAKER_01:I mean more why than just he's kind of like because he couldn't turn his head and it was a person.
SPEAKER_02:I think because like both the Michael Keaton Batman and the Christopher Nolan Batman, they're both like the director's portrayal of that character. Neither one of them are like true to the comics. Like they're both very stylized films. However, the Michael Keaton one's a little bit more fun. Like it's a little more fun. There's like yeah, Jack Nicholson in there. Yeah. Do I think Jack Nicholson's a better Joker? No, but I think that he's uh he's he's up there and he's like his own unique version of the Joker.
SPEAKER_01:I I think actually the Joker portrayal in the Batman like uh property is wild to see how they've all kind of taken a different different route to it. And then if you apply it to like a drug addict, that's what they do is like they're like uh the uh Jack Nicholas was like if the Joker was on Coke, right? It's like that's exactly who it would be. And then you have if uh what's his name? Um Heath Ledger. I was gonna say Jared Leto. Oh it was if he was on meth.
SPEAKER_04:Right?
SPEAKER_01:Then you have like Heath Heath Ledger. Um they they they they said uh what was the drug that they it was like if he was on pills and um it was wild to see like how they both they all found like what element to be disturbed and it was unfortunate. It's interesting that I've seen that on the internet, and I was like, that's an that's a wild take on the I think it's crazy it's jokers like all of these Batmans, they all weren't, I don't think, like as bad as some of the jokers have been.
SPEAKER_03:Like Heath Ledger was like a home run. There's been some other bad jokes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I I feel like if they give him a bad rap, that's not supposed to be like a normal character, it's supposed to be like a fed up individual.
SPEAKER_03:But I think it's like a fan favorite, though. Yeah, so it's like people want to see like a great performance. I don't know. I think Heath Ledger also like made that role wildly unattainable.
SPEAKER_01:Unattainable, yeah, for sure. So like repeat that.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, like you can't do it, and like people when they hear the joker, they probably think of his portrayal of it.
SPEAKER_01:So it's I mean, it is easily the greatest. You can't argue he's not the greatest joker.
SPEAKER_02:No, I agree with that. Jared's like who's too. And Jared Leto's by far the worst. Is a he's a hard, it's a hard watch. Like when he comes on screen, I just want to look away.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I love Jared Leto. Like, I like I'm like really, you know, dude. I I think in uh Lord of War he was awesome. Oh, okay. Right. And like I that kind of caught me. Then also I really like 30 Seconds to Mars. But yeah, you're it's like a hard watch because he's so it's just like it's just like it's just and then he was doing weird stuff too.
SPEAKER_02:Like I feel like he was trying to do like the uh like the Heath Ledger sort of like uh was it like character uh acting or whatever? Method, method acting, yeah. Uh but he was like sending like used condoms and dead rats to his castmates and stuff, and Bullsmith's like, Oh, I got a package from Jared Leto. What could this be? Like, oh it's another box of used condoms. Like it's so weird.
SPEAKER_03:So like Heath Ledger to me is so incredible. You know, the scene of him in the jail cell clapping. Apparently, he just started doing that and they weren't even filming, and they turned the cameras on and started rolling.
SPEAKER_01:Same dude.
SPEAKER_03:Like, that's the shit that I'm like, yes.
SPEAKER_01:The same thing when he went to flick when he blew up the hospital. Yeah, you know, that it was supposed to be just one take, and he was like and he's like shaking people up, and like that was his actual reaction. It's like there's some crazy shit there. There's also I I I saw an interview with the guy who played Harvey in the movie, I can't remember his name. Um, and he was saying his interactions with Heath were so disturbing that like they had one take to get it right because like they they like Heath didn't come out of character, he was a Joker the entire time they shot the movie. Yeah, so like they couldn't like practice. So it was just what it was on set, which is which is pretty crazy. Um but I so this new Joker, um with uh Barry Keogan. No the Joker movie?
SPEAKER_02:There's a joke. Oh, Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah. Uh Barry Keogan, supposed to be the Joker in the new in the Robert Pattinson one.
SPEAKER_01:Ah. Which is very interesting. Um version one, great. Like they went through like a very mentally like mentally disturbed individual, right? Yeah. Which is crazy because it always kind of like reflects back to like you know, drug use. And then they lost me on two, like, oh, that two was so bad.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, that I didn't make it through uh either. I will say though, that second one, the opening animation to it, I was like, whoa, I'm extremely hopeful. So trippy. This was awesome. It was like a it was like a kind of like a disturbed old old school Warner Brothers animation, and then it just started to get sour. I listened to a lot of uh I've listened to the uh Tim Dylan podcast, and he was talking about how he was on that movie and he had all sorts of theories as to like why it performs so badly. He was like, he's like even being on set watching it, he was like, This movie's this is gonna bomb, this is gonna be bad. Like, I don't know, I don't know. I think there's a lot of theories to that movie. I I don't think they really put forth their best, like like we think this is gonna be a blockbuster hit, let's do it. I almost think they were kind of trolling.
SPEAKER_01:I think they were. Like it makes a lot of sense that they were like, We did so good on the first, like let's we wanna f this shit up so people hate it for the second. And they they made it that. I was actually stoked because I I liked uh I thought Gaga would be like a great Harley Quinn. And yeah, um, when they went to the singing route, I was like, Yeah, a lot of singing. Why you gotta do this? Yeah, pulled me out of it. Um, but I am stoked to see the you know Batman 2 with Robert Pattenson. And actually, have you gotten into the Penguin series? I wanted to, I never watched it. I always I heard good things about it, but I never watched it. I I guess um I guess won a couple Emmys. Yeah, Emmys were yesterday. Oh yeah for the Golden Globes, Golden Globes, and that's the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:But I just saw it this morning on the our boy Chalamet won a Marty Supreme award.
SPEAKER_01:That was good. Nice. Um, so yeah, two should be good. I should check out the because it's uh it's Colin Farrell as a penguin. Colin Farrell rules. Um that should be a pretty good one. But let us know. Like, what's your guys' favorite Batman series? One, and then two, who's your best or most elite Batman? Because I I I love that conversation. I think it's I think it's incredible. Moving on. Um we don't really talk about movies. Obviously, we're not experts in that. We're not experts in literally anything. One thing I can say that Sam and I will probably reflex our expertise in is in being garage guys, whether it's in like an automotive focused garage, potentially a small engine focused garage, a woodworkers garage, a carpenter like maker kind of garage. I think I think of anything we're good at, garages might be up there. Like people would say we're experts.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if I go that far, but I agree with the rest.
SPEAKER_01:People, not us. Oh, okay. So with that, Joe has come up with the garage guy lifecycle block. I don't know what that means. Could you explain?
SPEAKER_03:Where are you saying? We're ranking fast.
SPEAKER_01:Or lifestyle block.
SPEAKER_03:We're ranking fast.
SPEAKER_01:Life style, sorry. So going back. We got a new segment that we're calling the garage guy lifestyle block, where we're gonna rank things that garage guys love. Alright. Because I think this is important. It's important to know what your fellow man finds to be of an of a high value in his life, is it not? I agree. And so, first up for this week's episode, we've got Fast Food Restaurants.
SPEAKER_03:Fast food restaurants. I think this is a this is up Sam's alley right here.
SPEAKER_01:So I will preface or I'll ask a question in preface. Are we ranking these on personal kind of like taste or thought? Lifetime?
SPEAKER_03:Like personal preference. We're gonna go through top like in order one to five.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:I have the every selection you could think of here. You just gotta give me your we'll we'll start at five and work our way forward.
SPEAKER_02:I've never heard of it. How did Panera bread make it on this? It's a Roy Rogers.
SPEAKER_03:It's considered fast food.
SPEAKER_02:You've never had Roy Rogers? I've never had a Roy Rogers.
SPEAKER_01:It sounds like something I have with. I like Sabaro and Quisnos on there. They're both out of business.
SPEAKER_03:Quisnos is just uh I just I Googled the list. I didn't like sit here and make it public artists.
SPEAKER_00:I don't want to speak your list.
SPEAKER_03:Um you could go off the area too. We don't have half of these.
SPEAKER_01:What are we doing? Is uh start walk us through this because this is interesting as hell.
SPEAKER_03:We have a list of fast food restaurants. You must yeah, you want us to just start with the Yeah, just walk you through. Go through your start from your worst and go to the best.
SPEAKER_02:When you say our worst, you mean like five top five, like your top five restaurants.
SPEAKER_03:It's not actually like the worst, but just if you had a rank. My top five. Yes. Or we could collectively do it. We can go in a gauntlet here, start ranking them. Yeah, just start pulling shit out because this is too much. There's just so many choices. You could just you could not look at that. I can go back. I have a I have some on your thing. I can run through five for you. Okay, go ahead, Paula.
SPEAKER_02:All right. And but when I say five, I don't mean like the worst. Like I think it's the worst. It's just a coming in at five. If you've got a list of five. Yeah. So let's go. Number five. I'm gonna put Oh wow, that's a little bit. Okay, number five, I'll throw KFC on there. KFC, while it's, you know, it's got its issues. I feel like it's a dependable five. So everyone gets the the hankering for some KFC at least once a year. So I'm gonna put KFC there. But now we're gonna start to pick up with some good ones here. I'm gonna put cookout and number four. I discovered Cookout whenever I was in South Carolina. Oh, cookout was amazing. My father-in-law.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean you're putting in a four if it's amazing?
SPEAKER_02:Well, there's ones that are even better than that.
SPEAKER_01:My father in law, my excuse, my my brother-in-law, he uh he played junior college football down south, and he was like, Cookout was the goat.
SPEAKER_02:It's insane. Like, number one, the selection was just out of control. You can be like, I want like a burger, a taco, a hot dog, like anything you want. And you'd like amass this massive order, and they're like, that'd be$2.35, honey.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, oh my goodness. I mean, Long John Silvers, dog shit. Put that on five or leave it off the list. AW, same thing. That place, uh it's just should I add another one? It's like the bathroom at Long John Silvers, is what AW is. Yeah. Um they have that nice mountain root beer though. Uh Blimpy is is even worse. You guys know what Blimpy is? Dude, I didn't think you would. So Blimpy was a like literally, they made subs at BP gas station back when I was a kid. And it you're better off just like eating lunch meat off the street. It was trash. Absolute trash. Yeah, throw an AW down there was shit too. Where's A and W had? It's already in the five, but you drop that down a little bit. Um, this one might be a little bit controversial. Here you guys take Lil Caesars, five dog shit all day.
SPEAKER_02:I I would I would give it a four.
SPEAKER_00:Four? How you can argue that is a four.
SPEAKER_02:I never had it until uh probably a few years ago, and it was like I was super hungry. Was it lunchtime? They're like hot and ready, it's right here. I feel like they're the fact that they have on-demand pizza knocks it up one tier. It wasn't the best, I will say, but the fact that it was just there, ready to go, is like a two-minute boom, in and out.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, dude, you let me down.
SPEAKER_03:Five for little Caesars. Can I get can I get some one like some goats out of the way?
SPEAKER_01:I think Dorsey top tiers? Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03:Culver's culver's is great. I'll say I this is bias. I love Canes. Uh Canes hits. I'll go canes too. Canes hits, yeah. No, all right.
SPEAKER_02:I get two.
SPEAKER_03:I can't is up there. I people were gonna slam me in the cup.
SPEAKER_01:Canes is like there's only one S tier left. I mean first off, fast food restaurants have fallen off dramatically. I don't need any of this shit anymore. But if I do, it's one place. I know it's good. It's Chick-fil-A.
SPEAKER_04:What? No!
SPEAKER_02:That's not it. I mean, Chick-fil-A is good, but I thought you were gonna say In N Out. I'd say Chick-fil-A's a two. There's even any In and Out's around here. I went to one when I went out to Yosemite. Oh my god. In and Out is it In N Out is up there.
SPEAKER_01:It was like Chick-fil-A's S tier. Don't even fight me on that.
SPEAKER_03:In N Out's going S tier too. In N Out's like S tier?
SPEAKER_02:It's like a better five guys.
SPEAKER_01:So like that's just not fast food, I guess. What are you talking about? It's like fast casual.
SPEAKER_02:Fast casual.
SPEAKER_01:Sit down and eat that shit. No, five guys. You gotta sit down and eat that shit. You can't go through a drive-thru. Yeah, I'd agree. I I don't even want to put five guys on this list. Yeah. I don't know if it's in and out. Like if in and out five guys, you have to go in, you have to order, cost$30. You get one burger, a bag of fries. It's good. I just don't consider the fast food. We gotta take you to an In N Out. I think you need to experience.
SPEAKER_03:Have you been to one before?
SPEAKER_01:No. Oh man. I don't eat fast food. As fat as I am, as big as I am, you'd be I mean, you know this. When have you have I ever ordered fast food since you've worked for me?
SPEAKER_02:One time we went to a McDonald's in Ohio, and you were very reluctant about the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01:It was breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I'll say here's here's two for you. Nine three for you. 2000s and 90s. Sabaros, quisnos, and kidoba, fire. Like I remember Cadoba. Nowadays, Cadoba, college for me was above Tripot A. It fell off hard though. Hard. So I'm probably gonna have to put Cadoba on a C tier, D tier, you're gonna get um Quisnos and then Sabaro nowadays is just dog shit.
SPEAKER_02:Just more keep coming. We don't have to do all of them. Like I get Denny's on the S tier joke. Denny's ass in here.
SPEAKER_01:Denny's just that's like, how is that fast food that's fast? You gotta sit down and eat it.
SPEAKER_02:I wish you I wish these places. When you put Taco Bell, I put Taco Bell in. Taco Bell. No, it's not.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's not. What is it for you? C at best. What do you mean, dude? I'll split it. We'll go B because I think it's it's not that good, but it's fast. I actually agree with Sam. Overruled, it's D tier. Overruled, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Taco, dude. You want to have a Wendy's for me is an A tier. Yeah, Wendy. Wendy's. That's the only conversation to be had in fast food for me is Chick-fil-A, Wendy's.
SPEAKER_03:So where are you putting McDonald's in Burger King?
SPEAKER_01:McDonald McDonald's is dog shit. Burger King's a D tier. Get Zach Speeds up on the A tier.
SPEAKER_00:I'm trying.
SPEAKER_01:Shit tier. Get them off my list.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no. McDonald's, that's a staple.
SPEAKER_00:C tier. Doesn't matter, it's a staple. The food is absolutely deplorably awful. You guys ever have Shake Shack?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_01:Shack was good in the in the early 2000s. It's poop now. Subway in the early 2000s. Couldn't beat it. Awful now.
SPEAKER_03:Go B tier versus awful now.
SPEAKER_01:Jared ruins. D put it down to D. Yeah. Pizza Hut in the 90s, elite shit now.
SPEAKER_03:I miss a good old Pizza Hut when you'd walk in and would like have some fine.
SPEAKER_01:When there was smoking inside, pizza was at its peak. Oh, Moe's. Moe's should be up there. Moe's is B tier for the thing. Yeah, I would they're super nice. The food, like the meat quality there is just not there.
SPEAKER_00:No, did you put Chipotle above Moe's? Chipotle's let us down so much.
SPEAKER_01:Chipotle is definitely above Mo's. Chipotle would be S tier, but they've been falling off the last. Maybe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You're judging Chipotle just off of our local Chipotle, and that doesn't speak for all the things.
SPEAKER_02:It's becoming a growing problem. I feel like I go, I'll go to see Kristen's family in Central PA. I'll go to that Chipotle. Here's a new one's a rough one, too. Yeah, but no, it's it's there's ever had White Castle.
SPEAKER_01:They're coming down. It's not that good. I have the best. I think it's like a B or C. It's better than McDonald's. Get McDonald's.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's not better than McDonald's.
SPEAKER_01:McDonald's in the show. What is good at McDonald's that you like it so much? You just love the nostalgia of McDonald's.
SPEAKER_02:I think I they're like an institute. I don't really like Ray Krog that much. You might drop it down. Yeah, but yeah, because of what Ray Kroc did.
SPEAKER_01:Go ahead, drop it. You got me on that one. I'm gonna. This is gonna be a controv well, it's not controversial. Jersey Mike's S tier. What? It's the best sub shop around now. What are you talking about? Nothing better. No one who's better than Jersey Mike's right now. Penstation? Penn Station is better. Subscribe. Penn Station, one, it's double the price. Jersey Mike's.
SPEAKER_03:I think I think we can revisit this list at a later time, but I think this is a pretty good list for our first ranking.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, like, there's a soldier in there. There's two of them in there. Who? Well, one, you didn't put my Quadoba up there, but I can't even see half of these. Boston Market back when I was a kid. Still around? No, they went bankrupt. That's why it's hilarious to me. Um was a was a was a fine establishment back in the day.
SPEAKER_03:I remember Boston Market. They used to have one at Cranberry. Oh.
SPEAKER_02:Did you put Papa John's in the shit, dear? Papa John's is shit. Years ago, I will say the pizza quality is gone. Domino's over Papa John's. Now, yes.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, 10 years ago. Domino's Deep Dish is the only thing that does it. The rest of their everything sucks at Fast Pizza. Fast pizza's just falling off hard.
SPEAKER_02:I'd agree with that.
SPEAKER_01:You're way better off getting a local pizza shop every time, 100 time.
SPEAKER_02:No. Come on now. Sheets is A tier. No, it's uh no, not A tier. Sam. You're putting sheets above five guys. You'd rather have a lunch at Sheets than five guys. Yes. Yeah, they have more options. More variety. Yeah, because they're dipping it all the same fryer oil. You want deep fried Oreos? Okay. You want chicken nuggets? Okay. We got a big vat of oil here on the five. If I get a salad. One thing very, very well. It's it's I'm willing to pay the premium because it's just done.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't had five guys in over five years. Maybe six. It is so field trip. Inexplicitly bad for you.
SPEAKER_02:I'm surprised uh it's better than some of these fast food companies. They use peanut oil instead of the seed oils. They use so bad. They use beef tallow.
SPEAKER_01:Any cold press oil is awful.
SPEAKER_03:Bo Jankles is pretty solid. It's a good list. I mean, that leads us to our last segment, the uh one everybody loves. Is it normal?
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna all right. Is it normal? Yes. Let's go. Hit us with them. My favorite segment. Sam, are you buckled in? I think the sour's finally worn off on my tongue, by the way.
SPEAKER_03:My whole taste is ruined, by the way. Yeah. My sparkling white button.
SPEAKER_00:My water tastes like water. This shit's permanent, by the way. All right.
SPEAKER_03:I pranked you guys. I altered your taste buds forever. Um, all right. First up, is it normal? Is it normal to Google something you already know? Uh you're in a conversation with somebody, they say something, you rebute it, um, and then all of a sudden you're Googling it to make sure you were correct.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna say no. And I hate when people do that in an argument like, let's bring out the facts. Like, no, you you come prepared with the facts in your head, man. We're not we're not busting out encyclopedias and stuff to validate your points. And no, it's not normal.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna I'm gonna lean on it's normal. I mean, you have it. Most people are Google First arguers now, they don't hold information in their head, myself included in a lot of areas. Um as far as like details and statistics and stuff, you need it to make a good compelling argument. So I think it's pretty normal.
SPEAKER_03:Agreed. Um up next, is it normal to sit in your car before going inside somewhere by yourself? I mean like like like like you're you're going into a store or you're going to meet someone somewhere and you know you're just sitting in your car for a couple minutes on your phone. Is that normal instead of just getting out and going inside?
SPEAKER_01:100%. My life is pure and utter chaos. I live in a tornado hurricane. The peace that I get inside my vehicle by myself, I'm I suck it up. Give me three minutes just in solitude and silence. I'm sitting there taking it. Scroll my phone without getting yelled at. I'll even try to squeeze like 30 seconds in when my whole family's in the car. Wife gets out, she grabs two of the kids. I gotta get the baby. I might just sit there, zone out, grab a few. You guys don't get it. Yeah, it's I'm telling you, it's a thing. It's hard to do. Or I I think we've talked about this before. Or you're there's also an uh uh an application where you're you're driving to something that is going to bring a lot of social input, and then you just gotta sit there and like hype yourself up. Yeah, for it. You gotta get ready for it. I'm walking into the gunfight, baby. Like, let's go.
SPEAKER_03:It's totally normal. All right. Is it normal to avoid stores just to not talk to employees? There's stores we all go through that have employees that will always ask you every couple seconds, like, hey, how you doing? Can I help you? Hey, and they're just doing their job, but is it normal to avoid stores like that, even if you need something?
SPEAKER_02:See, I kind of took it in a different way. I'm gonna say it's it's not normal because I feel like I took it in more so a way like a conversation may or may not spark. And I will say I You love an employee.
SPEAKER_03:You love talking to employees.
SPEAKER_02:I like I started to think about that the other day. I'm like, do I just get like lucky and or unlucky, depending on how you view it, like meeting these different characters, or are they just all out there, but a lot of us don't want to listen. So I think I have a habit of listening to every every character I encounter out in stores. Yeah, interesting too. I like it. It's it it's it makes life thrilling.
SPEAKER_01:Um I just avoid stores, period, if I can. Um you go to the mall more than us. Yeah. But it's not that I want to. Yeah, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03:There's like So you all you love that the COVID at the Ross Park.
SPEAKER_01:When you're buying boots, you should try them on first. Like, I'm an advocate for that. I've bought so many that I don't fit when I order them, and you know, um I'll give it to that. Um But besides that, it's like I I don't I don't want to talk to employees when I'm at the store, period, ever. I know what I'm doing when I go. I usually have like a game plan.
SPEAKER_03:That oh that meme, I know more than you.
SPEAKER_01:I know more than you. Yeah, the the Ron Swanson me. And it's like most stores I do if I'm going. Like I know what I want, I'm looking for, like, I need it. Just tell me where it is. I don't need to get your full life's breakdown, right? Um I avoiding the store just to not talk to people, I think is not normal. Like I wouldn't have to store just because I'm gonna have to talk to somebody. Yeah. Now my wife will go out of her way all day long and ask someone for help. I'm like adamantly against it. I also hate returning things. Like, I won't return something. I'm gonna buy another one. Dead straight, straight up since the day I met her. She's like, that makes no sense. Like it doesn't fit, it's the wrong color. Like you, it's not what you wanted, you're not gonna return it. I was like, I'm not gonna go through the packaging it up and go into the store and asking for a return and getting made to feel guilty or whatever, or going to the post office and putting it like I don't do anything. Why are you returning this? You steal this service? Yeah, yeah. It's like, uh, do you want a gift receipt or you want to put it on your card? No, it was a gift. Where's your receipt?
SPEAKER_02:Like, this guy stole this and he's trying to return.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm like, I just don't return shit. She thinks it's insane. I don't know. Okay. That's pretty normal, I thought.
SPEAKER_03:That's a crazy one. Is it normal to re-watch the same show multiple times? Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I I'm I'm not a fan of this. I don't I will watch new 100% of the time over. I agree with that. I don't think it's I want to get more, I want to learn more, I want to grow more, I want to, I want to more newness.
SPEAKER_03:I just think from that perspective, I just I just you already watched it once. Like, yeah, I can't watch something again if I already know what's coming. I feel like I can't.
SPEAKER_01:There's certain like if it's on, like like if Return of the King is on and I it's back in the day, yeah, old episodes. I'm leaving it on.
SPEAKER_03:But you not you're not binge watching a series you already binge watched once before.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, 100% no. Like, why would I do that when I could get a whole new series in the same time frame?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I feel like a uh enough time goes by, you'll start to forget like some episodes and stuff. Like I've probably seen the full run of King of the Hill at least like eight times through.
SPEAKER_01:Like is that's see in my head that's a complete utter waste of time.
SPEAKER_02:Why? Like otherwise, I could it actually one could argue that it's not because you could be rolling the dice on a new show where it's like, let's see, maybe I'll hate it.
SPEAKER_01:How do you grow and prosper if you just do the same thing over and over? Why do people live the same exact life? Why does groundhogs do?
SPEAKER_02:Why do people read books multiple times?
SPEAKER_01:I don't do that either.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you you should, because you could read it the second time, right? Oh, I picked up on that interview.
SPEAKER_01:If it's a book where you're trying to get like knowledge, not claiming King of the Hill is gonna do that for you. I'm not reading a sci-fi or fantasy novel multiple times. I'm reading a I'll read a business book or something like self-help multiple times.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I just enjoy my King of the Hill, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I I don't know. I want I want new. This one might be a little targeted, so no judgment here for this question. You'll laugh when you hear it, but is it normal to hate making phone calls?
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna say no. I I prefer phone calls. I know you brought this up before. You're like, send a text. I've literally told multiple people like close to me in my life because they'll send me a text and I'll let it go for like five to six days. I'm like, please, if you ever need anything, just call me. I prefer it. I like to just like talk to me. Waste time. No, I like to have a human interaction. Actually, talk with someone rather than just type out some stuff and send it away, and then it has to be. I honestly see this is the thing. With a phone call, if you need something, you call me, we can get it done in three minutes, and I could go on with my day. But with like texting, but it's interrupting your day. But it's a three-minute interruption versus a string of text messages.
SPEAKER_01:You could be texting someone for like You know how long it takes to get back on task if you're interrupted in something you're focused on? I think it's on average. It's on average 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but I'm saying with a text message, you're interrupted like every couple minutes.
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to look at it until you want to look at it.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly, but then like you're sending back and forth these like responses where a phone call, just take care of it, done. I don't have to deal with anything.
SPEAKER_01:It's a complete No I hate phone calls. I know.
SPEAKER_02:I avoid them at all costs.
SPEAKER_01:I know you do. At all costs. My wife's an attorney, she calls everyone 100%. Yeah. Only person I answer my phone to. If you call me right now, no one can get through my phone except my wife. I I think it's an incredible thing that we have uh at our fingertips in today's day and age to have the ability to communicate with someone without having to make a phone call, and then you still choose to call and interrupt them in whatever they're doing. Like, I think it's a sign of disrespect when you call someone. Like, if you're busy and I call you and you st and I'm asking you to stop what you're doing and make me more important. That's how I look at it.
SPEAKER_02:See ya.
SPEAKER_01:So I literally oh, it boils my blood. Boils my blood. Because like I'm not sitting here staring at the wall and playing with myself. I'm busy. You call me, you're making an assumption I'm doing nothing else, and that you are more important than the thing I'm doing.
SPEAKER_02:I I think that might be you it your own chip on your shoulder because I don't think anyone's calling you with the sole purpose of like. But it's think about it.
SPEAKER_01:If I I respect your time enough that if I need something from you, I will ask you to hop on a call or I'll ask you directly and let you respond to me when you have time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I wouldn't mind if you want to call me, I'll answer. No, I don't. You've called me before, I've answered.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I needed something immediately and know that I have to call you to get it. No, it's always you need. I thought you just call them, say hi. No, actually, I get a lot of pushback because there's a lot of people in my life that's like, you never call just to say hi. Yeah. And I was like, no, but you also don't do the same thing to me, and it's fine. I'm perfectly fine with that. I've got people I would rather play catch up when I see you in person.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. See, I like to, I don't know, I like a phone call. I called Joe the other week just to mess with him when I was leaving work. Yeah, I like I'll call I got buddies, I'll call and just hey, what's going on?
SPEAKER_03:Nuts. Yeah, I think that's nuts. Crazy prank he did on me. Okay behind scenes. Gosh. Okay. Is it normal? No, I I I don't think that's normal. I think phone calls are I I could I get where you're coming from. I think sometimes like I I so like my phone, I only filter through text messages from like people here during the days. So like I always tell people call me if you need to like get through to me just because I'll filter out other text messages so I'm not interrupted during the day.
SPEAKER_01:It's only easier or more convenient to call someone for the person calling. It is never more convenient for the person answering.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know. Unless it's on the calendar. Unless it's on the calendar. Like I said, I filter out my notifications from outside people that we work with for text during the working days. So I'm like, if there's an emergency or you need something, call me. It's always easier and you'll get through to me better. Because sometimes I won't even answer texts like to some of my buddies for like a day or two.
SPEAKER_01:So that's the thing. I answer every text, every email, every point of communication, but I do it when I have the time to do it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I agree with that. I hate seeing like the message bubbles that over like 10, I get anxiety.
SPEAKER_01:I'm I'm I just I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Pull up your phone. How many missed calls do you have on your phone right now?
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's the thing. I've never cleared mine out. And I got a lot of spam text messages, but I will say.
SPEAKER_03:And that's when your phone's not dead.
SPEAKER_02:My phone's alive.
SPEAKER_03:Is it on right now? Yeah. What's your battery percentage? Over under 20%. I'll take the under.
SPEAKER_01:I I was gonna say it's probably floating like 27.
SPEAKER_02:43.
SPEAKER_03:You plugged it in this morning because whenever you showed me your phone this morning, you were you had low.
SPEAKER_02:You make up.
SPEAKER_03:You were in the red. You make stuff up on the pot unreal. Uh last two here. Um is it normal to keep boxes just in case, like cardboard boxes?
SPEAKER_01:Oh no. I'm a millennial, it's so normal. It makes me sick.
SPEAKER_03:Uh my parents do it. They had these nice, they were moving out of their kitchen into their basement because they redid their kitchen. And my dad bought these super nice, like Lowe's boxes. I don't know if you knew this, but Lowe's has like far superior boxes than Home Depot, like this extra large moving standpoint. And like, I went to burn them after the move was all done, and he's like, What are you doing with those? And I'm like, throwing it. Because he paid money for them. Exactly. But like, I just thought that was I'm like, they're just gonna be folded up here and sit here forever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it's just equated to Apple ruined that for me. Keep your Apple boxes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I keep all the Apple boxes. It's a bad habit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't keep any. I just want them out. Uh, it's not worth it. My garage is full of boxes.
SPEAKER_01:I've had two dumpsters filled with boxes from the holidays, and I can't get away from it. You have more boxes in your life than anybody else. Three kids and a wife and all the things that we get delivered. Nuts. You need to get like I bought wall panels for the house for like my the the house, like uh these acoustic panels, right? Ten boxes just sitting in my foyer right now.
SPEAKER_03:You need to get a shredder. You'd benefit from a shredder.
SPEAKER_01:Without it, we need to get a bigger dumpster here.
SPEAKER_03:The next size up is a whole 12-yard dumpster. It is a big one. We'd fill that shit. It'd be worth it. We need to get we need to rent one just to side note. I told you we need to get a baler here. That's what we need.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna come in early?
SPEAKER_02:I would bail, yeah. I was I used to be the king baler back in the day.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I'm not saying you can't do it, but last month before we were out.
SPEAKER_02:You stuff the boxes and it compacts it. It's great.
SPEAKER_03:Is it normal to lie about how busy you are? What do you mean by that? Your buddy texts you, hey, what are you doing? Oh no, sorry, I'm busy. Can't can't hang out, can't do this, can't do that. Uh your parents, hey, do you and Kristen want to come over for dinner? I'm just giving examples that maybe other people have dealt with. But is it normal to like act like you're more busy than you are if you don't want to do something?
SPEAKER_02:I I feel like depending on the circumstance, yes. If if it's something you really don't want to do, then be like, oh man, sorry, I'm busy. I'll catch you on the next one. But I I don't feel like you should make a habit out of it.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's not normal. I think you might as well just say you don't want to do something to somebody. I think they'd probably respect that more than you. They might might break shit.
SPEAKER_01:I don't have to lie about it. Like if I don't want to do something, I'm I'm just telling them I don't want to do it. Like, I'm not into that. I don't have time. Yeah. But it is definitely normal. People do it all the time. Oh, I'm busy, I'm this and that. What ends up happening is you get someone that tells you that shit, they were busy, and then they misstep and tell you that what they were doing when the thing that you asked them to do, right? And then you're like, oh, you said you were gonna be busy. Oh, someone canceled. I was like, oh, the lies stack up. John Rick. The lies stack up. Gotcha. I gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Comment below uh questions you might have that are fit the category of is it normal. We would love to hear them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we'd love to hear what you think is normal versus not normal because it is quite hilarious. We should make we should see if down the line we can turn that into like a call-in segment.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, we do we do read the comments. So some of these topics were suggested by fans. We appreciate all the comments and interactions, the positive ones.
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