Alex Honnold Climbs Taipei 101 With NO ROPE | Slightly Above Average Podcast

On this week's episode of 'Slightly Above Average Podcast', we’re diving into the craziness of Alex Honnold’s Taipei 101 climb, blind ranking movie snacks, and debating everything from the worst pizza chains to who’s actually taking home the Super Bowl trophy.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Garage Vibes And Gum Lore
• 1:00 Old-Time Chewing Gum Taste Test
• 6:00 Nicotine, Caffeine, And Staying Awake
• 11:50 Denim Care: Wash Or Freeze
• 18:20 Western Wear And Cowboy Aesthetics
• 22:18 Alex Honnold’s Skyscraper Free Climb
• 30:10 Blind Ranking Movie Snacks
• 38:30 Blind Ranking Chain Pizza
• 49:00 Pittsburgh Pizza Culture Deep Dive
• 52:40 Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy
• 1:05:20 NFL Playoffs, Seahawks vs Patriots
• 1:15:40 Is It Normal: Jeans, Gym Clothes, And Double Dips
• 1:26:00 Splitting Bills, Tabs, And Venmo Etiquette
• 1:33:28 Parenting, Playdates, And Itemized Venmos

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:00

Even though Choy Cheese. No, I think anyone has it's a sad place. You guys eat dog food. You've eaten cat food on this channel. I'll tell you what, it's it's not bad. It's not the worst. Do not normalize double dipping. Everyone's got a good buzz on. Double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip. What the f are you eating? You need to dip it that many times.

SPEAKER_00: 0:19

Welcome to another episode of the slightly above average podcast where we've got garage vibes, random arguments, and all kinds of nonsense. Probably just like you and the boys at home are doing on as consistent a basis as you would desire. I am pleased today to be joined by my friends, Mr. Sam Pula and Joe Minor. We've got a hell of a lineup for you. The NFL's got some wild shit going on. The Steelers are in pure chaos. Sam thinks pizza should be relinquished to only chains, and we just had a snow apocalypse here in Pittsburgh. But before we get into any of that, quickly, Sam, would you like to bless us with Sam's tasting segment today? What do we got? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01

We actually uh we actually don't have a food today. We have this assortment of old-timey chewing gum, including Clove, Beamans, Blackjack. I've never heard of this one, though. T-Berry. I did uh I think that might be the only one I have heard of. T-Berry?

SPEAKER_01: 1:22

Yeah. Oh, really? Sorry to all the audio listeners at home.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25

Yeah, we're we're just gonna chew it briefly away from the mic and then spit it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29

Yeah, we're gonna go. So Sam is an avid gum smacker. Like I'm talking about. This man would make love to the gum, is what it sounds like is going on in his mouth. And uh like there's an unwritten but written rule here. It's like if you work here, you can't chew gum. Um mostly just because so many of us are mic'd up all the time. It's a pain in the ass for anyone listening and the audio and the editing. And so it's just like a rule, like no gum, right? Mints are fine, you know. But Sam here, if you if you if he if he can sense there's gum within like, what do you think, quarter mile radius? He's finding it and sticking that shit in his mouth. And he's smacking that thing like he's like like it's like it's the the sweetest like fruit to ever fall off the vine of like a divine tree.

SPEAKER_01: 2:17

I I I like Am I right, Joe? You do love your gum.

SPEAKER_03: 2:20

Oh, I like I like a lot of gum. Like I don't want like a little piece of trident.

SPEAKER_01: 2:23

I want like a You like a volume of gum.

SPEAKER_03: 2:25

Yeah, like big league chew or like hubba bubba where it's like yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29

How did you even get into gum tasting? Toss me a pack.

SPEAKER_03: 2:32

You know what?

SPEAKER_01: 2:32

I think project how'd you acquire gum loving?

SPEAKER_03: 2:37

I to be honest, I didn't always love gum. I think as I got older though, it just I don't know, it gives you something to do and you're just sitting there. It's probably good for your jaw. I think it's good for your oral health, keep things moving.

SPEAKER_01: 2:48

I feel like it's not good for your teeth. We can we get a dentist on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00: 2:52

It depends on if there's sugar or a bunch of junk in it. There's actually like I get served a lot of ads for like an herbal. Is there sugar in this? For like a gum, probably. It's if it's old timey.

SPEAKER_03: 3:01

Speaking of this, this is different from the regular recipe. I I had to watch this guy's YouTube video from many years ago where he went into the history of Beeman's gum.

SPEAKER_01: 3:09

Do we have any other ones? Yeah, I don't like the smell of those.

SPEAKER_03: 3:11

Come on, just eat that gum. Hold on. Like, crack a tooth. Do you have this shit in the freezer? This is brand new from Amazon. So a year ago.

SPEAKER_01: 3:24

This looks like just five gum.

SPEAKER_03: 3:27

Well, this gum actually precedes Wrigley's.

SPEAKER_01: 3:30

It was uh that's so tough.

SPEAKER_03: 3:32

It was initially made because this guy, uh, whoever invented it, something he was trying to get into the tire industry, and that's actually uh how chiclets they have chickle in them. They wanted to make tires out of that. Really? So the big selling point for this gum was pepsin. They said it had pepsin in it, which a lot of products used at the time as a marketing thing to be like, oh, it's good for your stomach. This does not have pepsin anymore.

SPEAKER_00: 3:56

The t the tea berry's good. I like the tea berry, like it's like a subtle. I'll try it. I'm not a fan of big, big, big red. You know how they say if you don't chew big red, then you. I've heard that. Uh never been a fan of big red. I will say in high school though, I would get Costco packs of um winter green gum. And I'd have a I'd I'd chew like probably a five-pack every day and just like blaze through them. I always had gum. Everyone knew I always had gum. It'd be like come like gather around Maliki's locker, get a get a piece of gum. I was a so you were a gum fanatic. Oh yeah. That's why, that's why it's so such a big thing for me that you're just smacking your lips chewing gum, because I'm like, I want to enjoy gum too. Now I am not a big league chew guy. I want a small, I like a minty gum. Like, I don't want I will say there's times when you're craving like give me the burst of flavor, like a big league chew, or even like that jolt gum with the the the whatever shit in it. Yeah. And then it goes away, right? But I'm I want that flavor, and I feel like the sticks and like the little stuff last longer.

SPEAKER_03: 4:54

Is it just me? Or I feel like each of these, I only tried the two. Beeman's is like black liquorish. This is something else, but you could like taste the age. Like this tastes like something that's like a hundred years old. Oh, this is shit that people thought tasted good a hundred years ago, for sure. I kind of I kind of like it. The flavors are subtle. It's not like they're way more subtle.

SPEAKER_01: 5:12

I'm not a fan of it. You either love gum or you hate gum. I feel like I'm not a big gum fan, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 5:17

No. Here, okay. But you chewed tobacco for a minute, right?

SPEAKER_01: 5:20

No, gum. No, no? And never tobacco. Okay. What about the nicotine pouches? Pouches, I'll do nicotine pouches.

SPEAKER_00: 5:27

But like your preferred flavor profile though. Nothing. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 5:31

I don't like tasting it.

SPEAKER_00: 5:33

You just want the lock, you want to lock in? Yeah. The clove does taste like clove. Which is you said the beam's black liqueur? I believe so. Unless so pretty wild, Joe, if you don't mind, could you pull up the stats? So, so the story of Wrigley's gum is pretty, pretty insane. As far as like an entrepreneurial thing, uh one of the one of the like the cooler entrepreneurial stories, I'm pretty sure it went like some terrible shit happened on the back end. But oh no, it's the this one's the black liquor, the black jacket. Yeah, it was a soap and baking powder salesman would sell the give the gum for free. Think about selling something for a penny and building a multi-billion dollar corporation. How many freaking sticks of gum you gotta sell? Like, absolutely insane. So Wrigley Field, yeah, with Wrigley Gum. Like, it's an empire. A gum empire. Which is nuts. And um, it's like something cool, like dive into like at the origin story of like Wrigley Gum. The the Beamans is probably my favorite, to be honest.

SPEAKER_03: 6:32

Yeah, I think so, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 6:32

The Beamans was the Mintiest. I think it's Spearman. Yeah, I'd go Beeman's Clove than Blackjack. I like the uh one I gave Joe a little bit more than big ones. You want this back? I'm not getting into blackjack though. I didn't like blackjack, but blackjack wasn't for me. I'll pick black licorice, I know it's gonna be my least. Yeah, it's not bad.

unknown: 6:51

Apparently.

SPEAKER_00: 6:52

Yeah, I'm going Beaman's Clove, whatever the hell one Joe has. And then yeah, blackjack. Black, no one like come on. Do you like black licorice? I think black licorice is one of those things that like you gotta be an old Italian to actually enjoy it. And my I don't even think my grandfather likes it, and he's 92.

SPEAKER_03: 7:07

I I like it because for some reason, whenever you're having something that's black licorice, it's like I'm not eating candy right now. This is somewhat good for me, even though it's probably not. You gotta convince yourself, yeah. Yeah, not for me. Apparently, the Beamans was very favored by pilots of the day. Oh. Yeah, pilots love.

SPEAKER_00: 7:23

I used to chew gum to try to stay awake before I realized I could just drink coffee. Right? Because I'm not I've I've never done well with tobacco or nicotine. Like I'm uh people I think I've told this story before, but people think it's wild that I'm not a tobacco user or a nicotine user. Just based on like I guess the way I look says, give me a dip. I could see that. And then I guess the way I present myself is like that dude's just buzzed to his skull on nicotine 24-7. Um, but no, neither of those, I'm I'm I'm riding pretty dry over here. I've I've just it's always kind of made me sick. So, like in college and when you're when you're playing football, you're awake like a lot, and you're in a lot of meetings. I mean, you're 6 a.m. to like 7, 8 p.m. straight like meetings, workouts, meetings, practice meetings. It's it's tiring. Um so to stay awake, a lot of guys dip. Um and nicotine pouches didn't exist when I was playing. So to do that, I I I tried it, it just never did it for me. So I would chew gum to try to stay awake, and then I realized I could drink coffee at any hour of the day, and I was so tired back then I would just fall asleep. Now I'm like, if I if I get close to 3 p.m. and I have a coffee, I'm like, I'm fighting, I'm fighting the devil tonight. I don't know if I'm gonna meanwhile I got like my uh my mother-in-law can have a coffee with dinner and just fall right asleep. I'm like, I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_03: 8:42

Yeah, that's that's like how I am with like coffee. See, I'm surprised no one's ever made like nicotine gum that they market like like they do like. It's too expensive. Is that why?

SPEAKER_01: 8:50

Because like if you make like$60 for like a like a I think a 24 pack, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:55

Dude, as I as I pound this coffee, I'll tell you a story. Like I'm I uh so me and Sam Green built that um conference table for Black Rifle Coffee way back in the day. It's like an OG John Maleki video. Um, and I actually pulled like an incredible amount of like long-term loyal fans, so like shout out if you're a fan of the Black Rifle Conference Table. But we delivered it in person down there, and we got to meet uh, you know, Matt Best and Evan, the founder of the company, and like a bunch of their like C-level executives. Um and we were in like the I don't know, like just we were just in a room, whatever. They're all like getting ready to go like conquer their day, and they had like a daily huddle. And we're just like chilling in the room, Sam and I like grabbing a coffee, whatever. And then they all whip out, this is this is probably this like 2015, I want to say, 16, 17, 18, somewhere I don't know, I can't keep track of time. And um they bust out a pack of gum and start handing them out to everyone. They would all chew nicerette, right? Because they wanted to get the the the nootropic aspect of the nicotine, but they didn't want to smoke or dip, right? And it was like right when this was becoming popular and using it, and I was like, man, that's also that's when I looked into it. I was like, maybe I should try that, and I was like 60 bucks a pack. I was like, nope, not getting into nicotine anytime soon.

SPEAKER_03: 10:08

Yeah, that is nuts because you can only get like nicotine gum at like a pharmacy or something like that, or it's always like stop smoking, but I'm just so shocked. I guess it's the price, but like that no one's marketed that because the only negative thing people have to say about Zen or the main thing is like gum health. It'll like your gums will receive this and that, but it's like, why isn't someone just sell it in gum form?

SPEAKER_00: 10:27

That is incredibly addictive. Well, yeah, like massively addictive. Yeah, it's uh it's it's just like one of those things that's you pull out the like really, really, really bad part. There's people are still gonna be all for that, like that like give them give them a one-up. Um, and it'll be interesting to see like the byproducts of it. I I mean considerably better than SIGs, considerably better than like actual dip, I guess. Um never been into it. I really tried really hard to get into it. I remember I got college buddies, they're probably not listening to this, but if they were they're like, Yeah, I've watched John Vomit trying to throw in a dip like multiple times. It's so surprising. It is, dude. Speaking well, I think the thing that I missed out on the most was like having that badass looking dip can silhouette in your ass pocket and your jeans. Yeah. Right? Like, I think that looking back on it, you're like, man, that looks so cool. Like, because dudes are this stupid. Like, correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, we're all that dumb. We see another dude, we're like, that looks cool, and it could be the stupidest shit, and then we want it. Am I right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 11:28

The the thing that threw me off with that that I hate I hate the spitters. People have a spitter that that that immediately the the status of the ring in the jeans goes away when they've got a Gatorade bottle just filled with just saliva.

SPEAKER_00: 11:41

Like, yeah, my buddies that dipped would always leave them in my house as a as a youth. It was like a present. My mom would be like, What is this? You dip in. I'm like, No, I promise. Let me see your lip. I'm like, um I never was. It was just my buddies would leave them or whatever. But kind of leads me into like a hot take here. So this is something that's been kind of going around the internet, right? I think it's kind of wild. Speaking of jeans, um people think if you don't wash your jeans for a week, you're you're crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 12:07

As long as they're not if they're just like normal day-to-day wear, I think you're fine. But if you're in like a workshop or something, getting like stains and shit in them, yeah. Yeah, you want to wash them. But other than that, I think I think we both receive this information somewhere. Like jeans aren't designed to be washed. Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00: 12:24

That's hold on.

SPEAKER_03: 12:25

That's a falsity.

SPEAKER_00: 12:26

Uh-uh. Denim is designed to not be washed.

SPEAKER_01: 12:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 12:30

Like pure denim. Like, so because I mean, I thought this was I've always been like a washer jeans kind of guy, right? Um, but not like daily. Like, I'm I'm talking like I'll wear my jeans till they smell, or they can like stand up on their own. Like, I'm that kind of person.

SPEAKER_01: 12:45

But how does one get to that point figuring that out?

SPEAKER_00: 12:49

Because like, dude, I I absolutely despise doing laundry. Like, I had Sam here, I don't know. We've gotten into this. I don't know if it was in our pre-recorded practice runs or like if it's made it on this show, but this man loves doing laundry. Like, it is actually Joe and I actually talk in private and worry about his affinity for doing laundry. Anyway, that being said, um my I got a buddy who was actually the head of denim for American Eagle for like four or five years. He told me he's like proper um hygienic, you know, care for denim is to actually put it in your freezer instead of washing it if you don't want to remove any of like the color or the natural wear on the fibers that makes true denim like comfortable. Like if you buy like real true, like I think Japanese denim is like real popular. Like true Japanese denim. Yeah, I'm not into that world or like raw denim, I don't like the feel of it. Um, but like let us know if you guys are are big denim people, because I know a lot of like the maker world and like the kind of the places we float around. There's some dudes that are like super into true denim. Do you wash your jeans? Because or do you freeze them? Because it's like it's I I neither. They're like neither. They're neither. I wear them until they're dead and then I throw them away. Uh the when he told me that I was baffled. I was like, dude, there's no way I should be freezing my jeans. When they started putting elastic in them though, I think the rules changed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 14:12

I have some like real denim jeans I like. Do you? I get yelled at when I like, you know, wear them once and then put them in the hamper. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00: 14:20

So you're like wash them every time, guy.

SPEAKER_01: 14:22

I so I used to think like that, and then it's transitioned to I wear them once and I'm like, well, you know, I went out to dinner in these jeans, I didn't get them dirty. Why would I wash them?

SPEAKER_00: 14:31

Do like a workout at the time.

SPEAKER_01: 14:32

Yeah, if I'm not going to work in them, if I'm working in them, I feel like Sam's right, like that's way different.

SPEAKER_00: 14:37

Yeah. But just wearing them casually, I don't know. Dude, I'll I'll we'll go this afternoon, like build a table. I'll I'll wear these jeans until like they smell. No I won't wash them.

SPEAKER_01: 14:47

Yeah, I'm not there, but I I don't think you're far off. I don't think that's too crazy. Like just get a little dirt on them.

SPEAKER_03: 14:53

I'd you know, fough them out and put them right back on. I remember I used to be mortified in elementary school. My mom used to insist on ironing my jeans. Yeah. And I it was a thing now. Is it? It was horrible. I hate it.

SPEAKER_00: 15:05

Oh my goodness. Okay, so I like my Western wear. I'm into like the like the Western clothing for some reason right now. I feel like uh having a midlife crisis or something. Uh we also work with Tacova, so it's a great brand. Like and anyway, so if you look into Westernware, the amount of people that are like heavy, heavy starching their pants and jeans and wearing them with like like in that cowboy kind of westernware world is insane. I'm talking, Joe, like like hours dedicated to starching and seaming your jeans so you get a perfect crease, and I you have to like jump off of like something at a high elevation to get into these pants.

SPEAKER_01: 15:44

So the only thing the only thing I will say is like you ever meet someone when I lived in Texas, I met a lot of people that you're like, man, this isn't like a fake cowboy, that's a real cowboy. Like, you know, Prim proper presents himself well. Oh yeah. Uh to a T in their dress code. Like those people are a little intimidating to a point. Hell yeah. Oh man, it's something about just like how put together they are and how on top of every detail is like it's impressive.

SPEAKER_00: 16:09

Yeah, Western wear specifically, like every article of clothing has intentionality. Yeah, I know. You're not just out there trying to look cool, which is all I'm trying to do.

unknown: 16:17

Right?

SPEAKER_00: 16:18

All of them. Like, I will say this, I'm pretty intentional with what I wear in the workplace. Like when we're working here, we're not just like chilling and doing like stupid videos. Like, there's a specific I got a specific type of jean on today because we're building in the shop. I wear a specific boot. I want these pockets and things. I want a hoodie because I can have a hoodie pocket, or I'm gonna put on a pouch. Like, I'm very like I'm intentional in that regard. When I was building like full time, I was very intentional what I was wearing on the daily. And the cowboys, I mean, everything down to like the length of their jean is important because of the you know, Briars and shit getting in their boots and whatever's it's nuts. They're super intentional if they're out.

SPEAKER_01: 16:52

That's crazy. We gotta get Sam dressed up in some cowboy outfits.

SPEAKER_03: 16:56

I I should bring in some photos because I I told you I had two horses growing up. My uh my preden that before. What? You know that two quarter horses growing up. What's a quarter horse? You don't know what a quarter horse is? What the f no why not?

SPEAKER_00: 17:10

I grew up in Murray's suburban Pittsburgh. That's the one place you should know about quarter horses. No, dude, our farms were for dairy cows and drinking in the fields.

SPEAKER_03: 17:19

Like No, we had two quarter horses. Uh yes, in my What is a quarter horse? It's a it's a type of horse. It's like it's a very common horse. Like, like some horses are designed, like like a Clydesdale, for example. Like that's a horse designed for like work and like pulling carts and stuff. You know what I mean? Like a quarter horse, it's kind of like like an all-around, like where'd you put these? Our barn. Well, I was I grew up outside of Aliquippa, but we had we had like 12 acres. Like horses in Aliquippa is kind of wild.

SPEAKER_01: 17:46

Well, it wasn't. It's more of a very rural area. Yeah, it's outside of Quippa.

SPEAKER_03: 17:51

I I could go in more detail. I just give more detail.

SPEAKER_01: 17:54

You're thinking of like the downtown Quipha.

SPEAKER_03: 17:56

Google yourself Aliquippa if you want. Like, it's not a horse town. No, we had maybe like 12 acres and a barn. So like my preschool food.

SPEAKER_01: 18:02

You still have that?

SPEAKER_03: 18:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:04

Hell yeah. I actually disagree with that. You ever been to an Alaquipa football game?

SPEAKER_03: 18:08

Yeah, my actually button, my shit pushed into it. It'll strike the fear of God into the godfather was the original Alequipa Indian. He would run out on horseback.

SPEAKER_01: 18:18

On horseback and spear in the middle of the next day.

SPEAKER_03: 18:20

They would like literally ride to the opposing team and like chuck a flaming spear into the grass.

SPEAKER_01: 18:26

Oh, yeah. I was a kid, my brother, they used to play against Aliquippa, and I remember like going to those games. Everyone's so nice to you. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? And then that happens, and you're just kind of like, it's gonna be a lock game. Like they're and they got their shit pounded in repeatedly the whole game. Like 75-0.

SPEAKER_00: 18:44

Like we're gonna we'll we're gonna jump into some NFL stuff here because it's it's top of mind in the world. But I Joe, I'd be interested to see if you could find it. How many Alaquippa alumni are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame? It's a pretty good number. And I and like this is not a big city, like it's a little town. In in Western PA. Um, I mean, Darrell Revis is from there, like literally as the most recent like um Aliquippa alum. Ma'Adika, you know, like it's it's uh Paul Plazles named three hope all, I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 19:15

Oh that that's a good bid for for three is a little bit law is a third, is he in? Yeah, I believe so. Tylaw Darell Revision.

SPEAKER_00: 19:22

And Reeves just got it. It's dude, and this is like uh how many people are in this town? I don't know off the top of my head, I don't know. Six, seven hundred no, it's not that small. I wonder would Namath, well I guess Namath is Beaver Falls, but yeah, they could claim him, and then Hopewell has a couple where they claim them as well. But like more or less, this little area is a pocket for like studs. Yeah, studs. Joe Mass Antonio. My guy. No. Shout out to Joe.

SPEAKER_03: 19:49

I think I have no idea what I told you that last name. I went to church with someone with that last name. They have to be related. Probably, probably Joe's a beast. In conclusion about the uh the horses. Though because I uh before I uh before I lose it in my head, my preschool photo, I'm in all denim cowboy boots on a hay bale.

SPEAKER_00: 20:06

I gotta get that photo, but I was always in western wear for my early is that that's probably why you're so one fashionable now, but two so anti-western wear. Probably. I don't wear a lot of western wear. Joe, can you pull up a photo? There's a band called Midland. I've showed Sam this a bunch of times. They're like um they're like a uh a Texas um band. They wear some outrageous outfits, and every time I see them, go up, go up to that one of them in the uh left. There you go, right there. Like this is the I this is what I want to like Sam. Can we recreate?

SPEAKER_03: 20:38

Yeah, can we rock this shit? The three of us. You could rock this shit. I'd I'd give it a shot. I'd probably have some different things.

SPEAKER_00: 20:43

It's got some like 70s vibes to it, right? Yeah, it's pretty wild. I saw you know Sergil Simpson, you like Surgil. Yeah, yeah. So I saw Surgil Simpson live a couple when he before the pandemic or like right around then. Um he just played in one of these like jackets with like the flowers on it, shirtless. That's all he wore. And he just he's not very show mini and he just stands there and rips guitar for three hours straight, rocking that jacket. I'm like, I could see Pula just going out in public wearing a floral, you know, kind of cowboy jacket, and just being perfectly fine with him.

SPEAKER_03: 21:15

I wouldn't be opposed to it. Yeah, I like a lot of those like folksy country artists like that. I think I went to a festival a couple years ago. I discovered like 10 of those artists similar, like Sturgel. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're so good. But they're like you you have to like discover them on your own. Like they're not, there's no news about them. They're not like all out on the place.

SPEAKER_00: 21:32

Yeah. There are some like satellite radio stations that play that kind of outlaw country will play Sturgile and like Tyler Childers. Okay. Tyler's gone a little off the deep end, I guess, in his last few this last year or so. But experimental. There's yeah, you could you could those folks the artists, right? I go back to like my heart goes back to like Mumford and Sons. Like, I remember when Mumford was like not popular because I was like well, they were just like coming and they were you gotta think about it. It's like it's not pop music, yeah, right? It's not rock, it's like folk rock. Yeah, it's like a few. And like they like it was I don't know. Big fan of Mumford though, put on a fantastic show, in my opinion. Speaking of an insane showing, this free climb from the weekend, I wasn't privy that any of this was happening, but you guys were blowing up the chat.

SPEAKER_03: 22:17

I've uh and what's crazy, well, two things, like, because Kristen told me about this. She's like, like, you hear about this guy climbing like uh this 101-story building in Taiwan? I was like, climbing it? What do you mean? She's like free climbing. I'm like, I remember a guy, we watched a video on him in high school, it was like a stossel thing, and he was this free climber. It was Alex Honnold. I was like, How old is this dude? This man's 40 years old, and he climbed this building. No harnesses, no ropes, no support. It's the most I knew that he completed it while I was watching it. My palms were just coated in sweat. It's absolutely terrifying. I was catching social clips of it, and it's it's just yeah, it is so nerve-wracking. But if you think this is bad, if you watch him climb like some of the mountains in like Yosemite, it's way worse. This had to be like a cakewalk compared to some of the stuff he's climbed. I just can't understand.

SPEAKER_00: 23:07

Look at that. What's even more insane to me is like Netflix buying the rights to broadcast this. Oh yeah. It's like what one, what a massive leap for like self-made content creators, like YouTubers, right? Because like that's what he is, right? He's a he's a YouTuber at heart. He's a free climber, but like he's a YouTuber, right? That's what he does, he makes free climbing YouTube content. And then for Netflix, like this is like I don't know if you guys see it, but like this is the next iteration of like what Mr. Beast is doing with like his fantastical kind of side of things.

SPEAKER_01: 23:42

Did you see that dude? So they paid him half a million dollars Netflix did to do this climb.

SPEAKER_00: 23:46

I saw Jimmy's tweet.

SPEAKER_01: 23:47

Jimmy's Jimmy tweeted, he was like, I would have paid him more to do it on the channel. Gee, you gotta be in everything, man. Like, that's nuts.

SPEAKER_00: 23:55

Like Jimmy just doesn't care. He's just like, I'll buy it all. You know, he's uh but Jimmy's doing is building a monopoly, like, but doing it with a good heart. Yeah, right. He's like, I'm gonna monopolize everything, but I'm gonna do it kindly. Uh but I dude, one incredible feat. I didn't catch the whole thing, but reading about it and then seeing it after the fact, like, dude, hats off to Alex Hanald, and like what a legacy and legend this dude is. One, two, seems humble as shit. Like, it just seems like a down to like one kind of a psycho, but like super down to earth.

SPEAKER_03: 24:26

He's very locked in on his profession while he was climbing. It just like because you're terrified the whole time watching it. Every time he'd get to like another level, he would just like he was real calm. He had like headphones in, so he communicate with people. He'd just say some goofy shit. He'd be like, huh, a little windy up here. Here we go. And I'm like, oh my god, just like you have to be so calm.

SPEAKER_01: 24:45

Did they have a heart rate monitor on him by any chance? I don't know. That'd have been wild. Look how he's hanging off the top of it.

SPEAKER_00: 24:50

Yeah, so I saw this clip of the Batman hang, is what they call that, right? Uh-huh. Um, and it's like a way to give his hands a rest, I guess. And people were losing their shit because it's like obviously you're taking your hands off of whatever, it's incredibly risky.

SPEAKER_01: 25:02

Um just nuts, like the ability. Humans are nuts.

SPEAKER_03: 25:05

Um Andy's 40 too. Would we could we make an argument he's probably one of the one of the top older athletes? I mean, that's that's what 40 years old. Sometimes, like, there's some athletes that'll do things at 40 where I'm like, that's impressive. But then this fail at this, you're dead.

SPEAKER_00: 25:20

There's like certain industries of athleticism where like you peak between 35 and 40. You think it's like like bodybuilders, like your body, like you you're not gonna be as good as like a 30-year-old bodybuilder when you're 20. Like, it's just you need time to mature. Um, I don't know if this is one of those sports, but I'm just saying it's like it may maybe it is. Like, I know cyclists is like comes with maturity, like you're expected to hit your peak at like a later.

SPEAKER_01: 25:47

I'm sure like for him, the years of training for his hand grip strain. He probably like in muscle memory, if being able to hold your body at a elongated times with just your fingertips is crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 25:59

Well, think about the Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hour rule, right? Like you've heard of this, you read the book? You didn't, I know you didn't. I didn't read the book, but you've told me about the 10,000 hour rule. This guy just has so many reps, there's not probably not a single hand holder fixture he hasn't done at least once in his life.

SPEAKER_01: 26:12

It's probably a relief to him to have like an actual structure to climb. He normally climbing like these walls and these rocks that are just perfectly straight. You can't even get a grip on some of it.

SPEAKER_00: 26:22

It's just Spider-Man. Like this.

SPEAKER_03: 26:26

Sorry, this dude's not human. After I watched this, I watched some of his uh free solo documentary, and he was in Yosemite, and there's just like a couple hundred foot crack up this mountain, and he scales the whole thing just by putting his hands in between it like this, and just do, do, do. But and he's like self-aware enough to know his limits, too, because there's like a part in that documentary where he's just like halfway up a mountain and he stops, he's like, I'm not feeling it, I'm not feeling it, I gotta get down now, and he just stops like mid-climb. And I was like, Whoa.

SPEAKER_01: 26:54

That's more impressive to me than actually scaling to know that you like probably can't do it and just to tap out that.

SPEAKER_00: 27:02

This man sounds so just stoic, just like extremely like incredibly at peace. His heart rate's probably like 36 resting. You should hear him talk.

SPEAKER_01: 27:11

Yeah, yeah, I did it. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, super awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 27:13

I wonder what gets him hyped. Could you imagine like what gets him fired? It's probably something like goofy, right?

SPEAKER_01: 27:17

Maybe he just doesn't get hyped, he's always just calm. Yeah, maybe that's the trick to human existence. You just could always be calm.

SPEAKER_00: 27:23

Honestly, you can live an extra 20 years if you just don't get hyped. You're like that stress you that I have when you're like, think about like how like how much like Sam loves you know his Ranger and the Chicago Bears. Like, if he doesn't put that energy exertion into his heart to feel that joy, he's gonna live an extra 20 years. Right? And you've already probably got a hundred coming. Those are the diaper years, I don't want them anyway. I this dude probably though, my like I think he probably gets hyped about something that's like we would never guess, right? It would be like like a snack that he had as a child or like pizza or something, like you know, something like Goofy, yeah, where he like climb the biggest tower in the world doesn't like phase him at all, but then you're like give him a I don't know, give give him give him like a good shape.

SPEAKER_01: 28:11

Look at that photo of him climbing that like completely free.

SPEAKER_00: 28:16

How do you even get into that sport button?

SPEAKER_01: 28:18

I think you have to just go in knowing like every single climb that like it you really could die doing it. So like once you come to like grips with that, I think it's probably just super easy for him.

SPEAKER_00: 28:29

Extreme sports never did it for me. I mean, I we I tried them, don't get me wrong. Yeah, like Jeffrey loved them, but like you you get you get fed up a few times. I'm like, oh I don't want to do BMX anymore. Like this shit hurts.

SPEAKER_01: 28:40

And could you imagine being Netflix having to like have that internal conversation of like, hey, listen, if you might film a dude die. Yeah, what is it? We gotta cut cookies.

SPEAKER_00: 28:48

Could you imagine being the country that says like cool, yeah, come in. Come in and then sort of go through That's why I probably wasn't in the US.

unknown: 28:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 28:56

They had the weirdest panel of like commentators because they had one little Roman Reigns.

SPEAKER_01: 29:00

Or not Roman Reigns, um wrestler, I forget his name. Yeah, they had just a regular TV hook. Seth Rawlings.

SPEAKER_03: 29:06

Maybe that was it. A WWE superstar, and then a uh an actual climber. And I'm sorry, but the WWE guy kept taking me out of it. I'm like, just be quiet. He's like, this is pretty crazy. I mean, I've climbed to the top of a cage in the Royal Rumble match, da da da. And this is even more intense than that. I'm like, yeah, obviously, it's more intense than that. Like I don't know who that is, but that's hilarious. He just kept bringing up wrestling for no reason. Like, it's not the time, man. Who's this guy? That guy, yeah, yeah. Is he like a friend of his or something?

SPEAKER_01: 29:36

I don't to be honest, I don't know. It was a random ass panel. And he was pissing everybody off because he was like getting so I mean, he was like a lot of the emotions people had, but he kept he kept going to like that state of like, oh no, is he gonna do it? How's he doing it? Why does he keep taking his hands off? Why are his legs off? Like, what is he doing? And it's just kind of like, alright, man, like let's relax a little bit. Like, I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 29:59

So so you're watching something like that. It brings us into our next segment. You're watching something like that. Like, what are you snacking on?

SPEAKER_03: 30:06

That how about it's like two hours, right? He did the whole thing, I think, like an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_00: 30:11

You're just like chilling, it's like watching a movie, right?

SPEAKER_01: 30:13

Even better than that. Are you snacking? I I got some uh I got some selections for you guys. I thought today we could blind rank movie theater snacks and also pizza chains. How does that sound? I'm gonna give you guys five and you're gonna rank them. You're not gonna know what's coming next.

SPEAKER_00: 30:28

Not knowing what's coming next. Alright, so we'll cover this up.

SPEAKER_01: 30:31

How does that sound? Does that sound enjoyable? I'm in. Alright. We'll start with movie theater snacks. Okay. Blind rank these movie theater snacks one to five, one being the best, five being the worst. Okay. Alright. Peanut MMs.

SPEAKER_00: 30:45

I mean, I'm not I mean, for me it's five. I like peanut butter. Peanut MMs are my favorite MM, but I'm not getting those in a movie theater. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 30:52

I was about to say five too. I I like peanuts on their own. I'm not a huge fan of peanuts and chocolate together. Okay. What? Yeah, I just don't really like it. What? What about peanut butter? Well, that's different. I like peanut butter. No, it's not! That's kind of different. Everything's all already like mixed together. I don't want the bite of a peanut mixed with the bite of a piece of chocolate. I don't like them together. I don't know. Are you kidding me right now? But I enjoy an almond joy though, so I guess that kind of breaks the rule.

SPEAKER_00: 31:18

An almond joy is coconut. Sam, what is happening?

SPEAKER_03: 31:21

There's an almond on top. There's an almond on top. Yeah, I like an almond joy. That's that's my limit with uh yeah, peanut chocolate. Yeah, not a huge fan. I don't think they were meant to be.

SPEAKER_00: 31:31

You don't do chocolate nuts? Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_03: 31:34

No, I just if I if I have peanuts, I just want it on its own. I want it salty, roasted. I don't want any I don't I'm not a big sweet and savory guy. I just want one or the other. You're missing out on a massive section of life, my friend. And it's even worse when I tell people because it elicits this exact reaction where it's like, no, no. Have you ever thought you're just wrong? I I could be, but I've I've literally tried to force myself over and over again. And the only one that I will say like I've developed with age, like a taste for is an almond joy. That's like my limit. Yeah, not a huge. I I could I could eat a Snickers from time to time. I enjoy I'm not saying you gotta like hammer down candy bars, but I am saying that. You're right, John, but put on like 40 pounds.

SPEAKER_00: 32:17

No, yeah. Smacking a candy bar is not like I'm not I'm not saying go for that, but you sweet and sweet. Well, you obviously must not like it. You put them as number five. As a movie theater snack, I think there's other things that are better. Like maybe there's not. Maybe it's a bit of a big thing. I've never, I'll just I'm in my life. Um obviously I don't go to the theater. Like you have a movie pass, you go to the theater on the movie club. I've got children and responsibilities, so I don't get to do that. Get them some I'm not getting MMs at a movie theater uh ever in my entire life. Ever? Never, not once. I don't like, and personally, like just straight up the brown box of MMs, like I hate those. Like they're completely come on now.

SPEAKER_03: 32:55

Like I'm I'm completely useless to me.

SPEAKER_00: 32:58

I want the thing in them. I want the peanut or I want like a pretzel. I want something inside of it. I'm not a fan of just like Mac and chocolate, straight up.

SPEAKER_01: 33:06

Alright, next up Skittles.

SPEAKER_00: 33:12

I'll give that a three. So Skittles. So I'm a I'm a fruit candy guy. If I'm eating candy, I'm a fruit candy guy. It's Starburst, Skittles, and then I'm getting into like the gummies, right? Like gummy bears or into like I'm not like peach rings specifically or sour patch, I'm not like that. But so Skittles are up there for me. There's two things at the movie theater specific. I'm putting it as a three as well. There's two things I think are gonna come before it. So we're at three and five for me. Three for both of us? You took a three?

SPEAKER_03: 33:45

Yeah, I also prefer like a more like tangy candy. The only thing, the only reason it's three, I hate when stuff gets stuck in your teeth and Skittles, you have like four or five of those.

SPEAKER_00: 33:53

What's wrong with your teeth, dude? Skittles never get stuck in my teeth.

SPEAKER_03: 33:56

Oh, yeah. They get gummed up in the back of your mouth. How many skittles are you? I mean, give me a bag.

SPEAKER_00: 34:02

Give me that bag, yo.

SPEAKER_03: 34:08

Like like five to ten Skittles, they're getting stuck.

SPEAKER_01: 34:10

No chance! I think the only negative of Skittles in a movie theater is like personally, I don't want to make too much noise. So that's the only reason I really want to be a little bit more than a lot of things too much. They're not that pop rocks. You gotta shake them in your hand, get one, and then eat them. You don't need Skittles the right way. It's okay. No, I straight out of the bag, they don't come out of here, you gotta shake them in your hand, you gotta go out.

SPEAKER_03: 34:30

Swallows them whole.

SPEAKER_01: 34:33

You just swallow some skittles. Yeah, dude. You gotta enjoy your Skittles, John. I do. Surprised they're not one hearing that for you.

SPEAKER_00: 34:40

No, there's two things at the movie theater that I'm putting above it. All right. But they might not be on this list. They should be.

SPEAKER_01: 34:45

Alright, this one's kind of a snack, it isn't. A fountain drink.

SPEAKER_03: 34:49

If it's a fountain coke, I'm gonna give it number two. Number two. There's nothing better than a fountain coke. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 34:56

Pop, I'm putting that as I'd put that as five if I could. I'm I'm not drinking a fountain drink ever.

SPEAKER_03: 35:02

But it's different than the buttons. Like the thing, like I've never gone to a gas station and been like, oh, I want a soda in a bottle. The only time I'm not a big soda guy, but the only time I get a taste for it, a fountain soda, because it's different. Like a fountain coke, there's a whole science to it. It's like if all soda tasted like fountain soda, it'd be a problem.

SPEAKER_00: 35:20

Fountain Coke is is by far the most superior Coke. Like I will hands down give you that, but I'm not drinking my calories. There's there's a calorie-packed snack at the movie theater that I'm saving for. I'm not drinking that shit. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna yeah, no, get that out of here.

SPEAKER_01: 35:34

I feel like everyone could go, you know, you can't go wrong with a nice fountain drink at the movies. Oh, yeah. It's probably the one thing that's I've been fat my whole life, Joe. I don't do I don't do pop, period.

SPEAKER_00: 35:43

Like ever.

SPEAKER_01: 35:44

Have lemonade, Power Aid. You could get Gatorade.

SPEAKER_00: 35:47

Waste of calories.

SPEAKER_03: 35:48

I miss the old Power Aid logo.

SPEAKER_00: 35:50

Gatorade Zero. You guys ever have Allsport? Were you too young for that? I've never heard of that shit. You never heard of All Sport now? Oh, my millennials. There was this All Sport. It was a fizzy like uh hydration drink right up there with like Gatorade, like they were trying to compete in that Power Aid that you could get back in the day. It was like, now that I think about it, it tastes like medicine, but it was phenomenally nostalgic. Phenomenally nostalgic. It's to roll off the tongue very well. All sport. Absolutely sport. Despicable. All right. Alright, up next, popcorn. Number one. Number one all day. Like, hands down. I'm I'm saving so I can get a bottomless bag of a giant bucket of just fiber and butter. Give me that shit. And and I actually despise the way they do it now because they like they like pump it so much it's like it's like liquefied. I only want the subtle butter. I don't need it swimming.

SPEAKER_03: 36:44

Yeah. Yeah, I don't like the the whatever kind of butter they're using. They've got that that dispenser with the clarified butter. Yeah. Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I assume to have smooth. They take the they take the fat out that makes it hard. Okay. I think it was some sort of lab butter. Definitely not 100%. Any lab butter on your popcorn, sir. Yeah, I yeah. The popcorn, and it's just so different than like a microwave bag of popcorn because they use like the peanut oil that's made with the little popcorn popper. It's just straight cancer.

SPEAKER_01: 37:14

Last and not least, an icy slushy. There it is.

SPEAKER_03: 37:18

Number two. I guess it'd have to be my number four, but if if I could go back, I would have bumped it up to a three. Icy slush for whatever reason, that's one of those, like there's a few staple like drinks and foods that just remind me of my childhood and the icy slushies. And it has a burn to it, but I like it. Like I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01: 37:36

You know what's nuts? I've never had a slushie at the movies. What? What? You mean you bring it up? Shut it down. We're going to what's in theaters right now. I've never had, I just never have it was always But you're like Mac and a Sprite? I never when I was a kid, we used to take our own snacks. Cold chicken and eggs. Yeah, Joe's never eating protein. Give me egg whites. You go to the dollars, there's a candy shop right next to our house. We used to go there because it was significantly cheaper than the price movie snacks. That's what we did. We'd always just buy that stuff, take some waters, and yeah. So I've never had a slushy.

SPEAKER_03: 38:10

You have time left on this issue.

SPEAKER_01: 38:12

You know what?

SPEAKER_03: 38:12

Uh we'll there's only one way to eat drink a slushy, too. There's one way. What's it? You're gonna mix them? Uh see, I don't like the.

SPEAKER_01: 38:20

You're gonna get half and half.

SPEAKER_03: 38:21

SAM! No, you just get the blue one.

SPEAKER_00: 38:24

You are such like a skinny little cockroach. You do not. No, no. I can agree with that. The blue is is the red and the coke all day. No, your body doesn't have to be a big one. The cherry and the coke. The cherry and the coke. You just were saying soda over here a second. I am. That's why I say I'm saving those calories for that. Sugary, deplorable, diabetes-inducing fat cancer drink.

SPEAKER_03: 38:45

Give me that over just like a nice smooth Coca-Cola. I remember it was always such a luxury to go somewhere with a uh an icy machine, and the the you'd always get that feeling of disappointment when you walk in a gas station or a business that's like, oh, they just have slush puppy, and they'd have the real thick chunks of ice, and it was just it was not even comparable. The icy was such a premium product. I remember them at Kmart's when Kmart was a thing. Kmart's Adam.

SPEAKER_00: 39:09

It was like a big uh My mom used to bribe Jeffrey and I to go grocery shopping with her on Sundays back in the day with icy's at Sam's Club. That was a good bribe.

SPEAKER_01: 39:20

You know, there's a movie theater in uh Pittsburgh that I've been to. Um a couple years ago, my whole family went for something. I forget what the hell was out. But um my dad, they had an open, they had like a bar. A bar, yeah. And they had he got a captain and Morgan Um It was uh Captain and Coke slushy. And it was like it was elite. I mean, like you couldn't even taste the alcohol, but he was he was there was none in there, he lied to this. Oh no, no, he definitely felt it afterwards, but like I mean, man, I'm like now that's what I'm talking about. You're getting a little drink on in the movies.

SPEAKER_00: 39:53

I mean, I'm all for the drinking at the movies, but I'm I don't f with the slushy stuff like in my drinks. I I really um yeah. I literally I'll just do an Nicey, but I'm not like I'm not like turn everything into a slushy guy. Like I'm not like I'm not like slushy margaritas, I'm not in any of that.

SPEAKER_01: 40:06

Okay, I could see that.

SPEAKER_00: 40:07

Yeah, the the I I but for me, every m every movie nowadays I don't do it because I'm you know old and fat and I'm trying not to die. But when I had what I thought was an endless runway of life, I was con I would be big ass bag of popcorn, slushy 100% of the time.

SPEAKER_03: 40:25

You know one slushy machine I aspire to uh I aspire to own one day, the Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville machine. Yeah. I feel like that's when you know you've made it, and like you got a Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville maker.

SPEAKER_00: 40:36

Wait, you gotta have a house to fit that. That thing is that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03: 40:39

That's what I'm saying It's like as big as this shelf. That's when you know you've made it because you got a house big enough to house it properly. You got a room for it. Come down to Margaritaville. Let me take your take your take your sandals off. Let me make you a margarita.

SPEAKER_00: 40:51

So you're like uh you're like a make a margarita whenever kind of guy?

SPEAKER_03: 40:54

I'm honestly not even a huge margarita guy, but for some reason when I get near a beach, I'm just all me? Yeah. Really? Yeah. I can see myself retiring near a beach one day. Just become just a one with the sand. Yeah, one with the sand. That wouldn't be bad. Yeah, just margaritas right on the beach.

SPEAKER_00: 41:11

I'm not a fan. I get a lot of heartburn from margaritas. Not a fan.

SPEAKER_01: 41:16

Moving into this next one, I I think this will cause some controversy, mainly with you, John. Um, we're gonna blind rank chain pizzas in the U.S. I didn't like that size. Go ahead. All right, first up, Pizza Hut.

SPEAKER_00: 41:31

Dude, chain pizza is just falling off a cliff, man. This is tough. All right, are we talking Pizza Hut right now or Pizza Hut in its prime when you can smoke inside? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01: 41:39

You were to order pizza, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 41:41

Um Pizza Hut today. Or are we talking in the chain lifetime chain? Or are we talking about right today, right now?

SPEAKER_01: 41:48

Pizza Hut as it stands right now, lifetime legacy. Hey, remember your body of work is a representation of you. So like You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_03: 41:54

I I can't remember the last time I had Pizza Hut. I honestly don't do a ton of chain pizza. Uh I do zero chain pizza. I I as of right now, I think the last time I don't know it's been a it's been a minute since I've had it, but I'm gonna go number five. Only reason being the last time I had it, I just remember it was so fluffy. Like it was just like too much air in the dough. And it it honestly felt like a like a frozen pizza. Like it was like one of those rising crust, like frozen pizzas. That's the the vibes I got from it. I'm not a huge Pizza Hut guy. But back when we had the buffet though, so that was different.

SPEAKER_00: 42:27

I'm going with I'm going with the brand. I'm going with the overall brand. It's the only way they can save this. Pizza Hut's gonna be a three because I'm pretty sure you're gonna hit me with some some dog shit that's gonna be way worse. I've already shit on on this this podcast. But the bread sticks at Pizza Hut bring it up to a three for me. The pizza's garbage, but the breadsticks for me, all the nostalgia, just a box of bread covered in Parmesan and garlic.

SPEAKER_01: 42:50

I think the last time I even had Pizza Hut was sitting down inside an actual Pizza Hut years ago. I just wanted to.

SPEAKER_00: 42:56

No, you went to a sit-down pizza hut. There's one next to my parents. I mean I literally couldn't growing up. It's probably been a decade plus for me.

SPEAKER_01: 43:02

It's for sale, by the way. We can buy a Pizza Hut if we wanted to.

SPEAKER_00: 43:05

What are we waiting for?

SPEAKER_01: 43:06

We could buy it, John. Come on. I love losing money. Yeah. They want too much money for that spot, too. They want$960,000. Steal, right?

SPEAKER_00: 43:15

What a million three for this busted ass pizza shop up on the up in Gibsonia, too.

SPEAKER_01: 43:19

The logos are all taken down. It's not even the bones aren't even there anymore. It's just a brown pizza.

SPEAKER_00: 43:23

There was one right around the corner from here, too. Yeah. Pizza Hut. The red, the clear red cup, the cigs inside, the buffet. You know, at one point Pizza Hut was the largest buyer of kale in the United States solely as garnish on its buffet. Elite. Right? That used to be elite. Pizza Hut Prime, baby. Me and the boys back in elementary, middle school, we would ride our bicycles. This is before cell phones. We'd ride our bicycles to the local Pizza Hut, go to town on a buffet, be asked to leave the majority of the time, and max out the time. It was 11 to 2 or something. Max that shit out, eat everything within sight. It was like seven bucks. It was elite. Yeah, that's nuts.

SPEAKER_03: 44:02

All right, next up, we got little Caesars. Five. I'll give that a four. And I've said it before. There is something, there's something to be respected about the fact that they could get you you'd be in and out the door in five minutes with a pizza. Whenever I was whenever I was coaching, I remember we'd be like uh taking the bus with the kids home, and it's like we gotta get get them some food. You could stop right at a little Caesars, in and out five minutes. Oh, I got like six pizzas, distribute it, good to go. And none of those chain pizzas that we're probably gonna talk about could do that. You're talking about a hot and ready? Hot and ready, yeah. You might you make no change the price for years. They've literally cardboard trash. I mean you might as well eat dog food. A lot of the You eat cat food on this channel. Yeah, but uh I'll tell you what, the little Caesars though, it's it's not it's not the worst.

SPEAKER_00: 44:49

Didn't grow up with some there wasn't one within like twenty fifty miles of where I grew up, never had it as a kid, had it in college. We used to actually wait for the one. I had a buddy that went to Allegheny College. We used to wait for the little Caesars to close. Once it hit 2 a.m., they'd take every hot and ready and just gently place it in the dumpster, and then we would just go in the dumpster and take the hot and redies out and go back to the house and eat them. It's a foul, the dumpster was empty. They're in the box, they're in boxes, they're in boxes. So it's been in that dumpster. Who gives it a shit? I was I was 20 and crushed. Like I cared. Free pizza, baby.

SPEAKER_03: 45:25

Pulling hypodermics, but you'd get some weird shit.

SPEAKER_01: 45:30

Maybe that's goofy. We got Domino's.

SPEAKER_03: 45:35

You know, uh, if it if it was six months ago, I would have said three, but I'm gonna give it a two because Jeff will get those Domino's pizzas from time to time. And I they're not bad. They're not the worst. Honestly, they're kind of good. I'm yeah, number two, confidently. I think they've stepped up their game.

SPEAKER_00: 45:50

So Domino's of the chain pizzas is my number one. Oh wow. And I mean I haven't had it in 15 plus years, probably since I lived in the South Side, which would be like 2010, 11. Yeah, so 15 years. Um it it's just the only one I ever ordered growing up. Like I have since I've been a kid been a small pizza shop guy. So like we didn't do chains ever, so I still don't. And that's why it's my number one. Um, but it's the deep dish for me. Not their traditional, their traditional pizza's pretty garbage, but the deep dish, you get that crust on it, right? And then I would what I would do is buy the whole thing and then put it in the fridge, let it get cold, and I'd eat it cold the next day, or I'd heat it up till it got really crispy. Now that we have air fryers, that's my go-to with dominoes. And I mean, this is all like stupid drunken broke John days.

SPEAKER_01: 46:44

All these pizzas are um fourth on the list, Papa John's. Ooh.

SPEAKER_03: 46:51

Now I will say I've had it recently and it's not the same as it once was. I'm still gonna give it that number one title because it was so good. Like I remember being a kid, and when someone would get some Papa John's with the garlic, uh the garlic butter, there was nothing better than that. Fantastic marketing. There's some there's some hilarious old ads of uh Papa John. Like the ads he would do like on his YouTube channel, just super goofy. Yeah. And yeah, the marketing, the flavor, the story, everything. Yeah, Papa John's number one. I'm gonna put it at two.

SPEAKER_00: 47:26

I've I don't know if I've ever eaten it. What? Like, I What do you mean? What do you mean you never mean Papa John's? There's no Papa John's where I grew up, and I tell I'm telling you, like, I didn't do not eat chain pizza. Did you you went to Pitt? There's no there's no Papa John's at Pitt. There's no There has to be Players. There has to be one zero in the city of Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_03: 47:44

Pull it up. There's not. Did you ever have Papa da Vinci's back in the day?

SPEAKER_00: 47:47

Yes. I lived behind Papa da Vinci's. So I could walk out my back door and walk into Papa da Vinci's. That place was nuts. That's what I'm talking about, Paul.

SPEAKER_03: 47:56

That place was nuts.

SPEAKER_01: 47:57

Let's go. You just didn't want it bad enough. North of that's all the way up in Bloomfield, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 48:02

That's not close to Pitt.

SPEAKER_01: 48:05

It's technically North Oakland. It's next to the Hams. Get out of here. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_00: 48:10

So no, Papa John's and then Western PA, there, I mean, excuse me, Westmoreland County, like, there's no Papa John's. Look, there's one in New Ken. And when I was a kid, there was never one around. So never, I've never had it. I think I might have had it once, but I'm putting it at two for me just because I love Peyton Manning and I love Shaq. Uh so like they're both they're both owners or have stake in it. And then I do think Papa John is a wild character, um, but had insane attention to detail and built a billion-dollar empire on the back of like better ingredients, better pizza pop. I love I love the marketing and the branding and stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 48:42

And number five, Sabarrow.

SPEAKER_03: 48:44

Uh see, I wish I would have known about that. I would have put that way higher. It's is at a lot of malls now. It was.

SPEAKER_00: 48:51

Is it still around? I was at the mall last week, a month ago.

SPEAKER_03: 48:53

I don't think there's one at the Ross Park. I think it's gone. You're right. Yeah. No. There isn't still no, I think it's gone, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 49:01

I would have put that one at number one if I would have known. I grew up, so I grew up thinking Sabaro was like the most elite pizza on the planet. Like being like an ignorant, you know, just like untraveled kid, like from Murraysville, like I didn't know much. And being a my my mom being a purebred Italian and my grandparents being straight off the boat, like their definition of pizza was considerably different. That's probably also why I'm not a chain pizza guy, because like we had this place called Donna Lynn's in Murraysville. Shout out to Donna Lynn's. Like, we really liked it. It was good, it was really good pizza. When Vocelli moved in and when foxes started to pick up the local chains, um my my dad really liked those, so we we would eat those a decent amount, but Donna Lynn's always has my heart. Like, if I'm in Murraysville for whatever reason now and I want pizza, like that's what I would eat. Um, but that being said, we go to the mall seldomly, and the Sabaro, you're just like looking at it, and it's just sitting there in slices, and you're like, this must be what New York City's like. Like, look at all these different varieties of flavors and and all this. So it I would have put it higher as well. It's obviously my four because I'm out of spots. Um, but it's it's absolutely dog shit in reality.

SPEAKER_03: 50:11

But they put the nostalgia elite nostalgia. Yeah, compared to the chains, it's up there. There used to be a pizza place in Alaquippa. You ever go to Villa de Pizza? You ever been there before? No, but I've heard of it. Uh yeah, there the guy that was in there, I don't know his real name. They call him Chubby. He had all these rules when you'd walk in. The walls were covered in signs, so you'd walk in. You could only order an even number of slices, only one either one or two toppings. If you got on your cell phone, you had to wait in the place for your pizza. If you got on your cell phone, he'd throw it away. He'd also give you a name when you came in. Like he like I'd be like a kid going in there with my mom, he'd be like, Esmeralda, how many slices you want? And like he'd just come up with names and stuff. He was he was like the he's the pizza Nazi.

SPEAKER_00: 50:54

He was star Starbucks before Starbucks was hit the name thing.

SPEAKER_03: 50:57

Yeah, I think people enjoyed the experience. You just go in there to get treated like shit, and it was great.

SPEAKER_00: 51:02

There was a place called Vincent's, it's uh it's like an eastern or western PA, excuse me, east side of Pittsburgh, Western PA pizza chain. Um, that was very similar. Like you walk in, there's cigar ash on your pizza and stuff. You get extra oil and they burn it out, it was dripping all over your car. It was gross. But with the pizza com like the with the pizza topic there, it's like, are you guys aware that like Pittsburgh ranks in some people's minds as one of like the top three pizza cities in the country? J May and Ellis at work. Like which is wild, because we're look- I'm like with Sam and I are over here spat, and I don't know, Joe, if you've got to experience as many like small pizza shops as as uh where you're from is a little more rural. Yeah. But like, dude, they were literally everywhere like growing up. And then when I was down in Oakland, I mean My family grew up in Ambridge in Alaquipa. So there's yeah, you got a big Italian pizza. No, but I've heard of it. You're I've actually been with people when your dad calls.

SPEAKER_01: 51:55

Yeah, it's not the same as it used to be. But I remember like it used to be this old fire hall, you'd walk in and it was just like these big squares. Yeah. And it's not like uh traditional style pizza that that you like, I don't think, or whatever the stuff is.

SPEAKER_00: 52:08

I'm actually like a very cut. Yeah. I'm a very uh very much like a Neapolitan fan. Like I love a Neapolitan, but I'm I'm I will eat them all.

SPEAKER_01: 52:16

Yeah, it's very different, but it's just like the whole it was the whole atmosphere. You'd go in and just like the vibes you got from it were immaculate, and so it was pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00: 52:24

That's like Vincent's back in the day. It was on 286 in Plum. And shout out. Like, I'm I know uh I grew up with a couple of guys that are like Pat McAfee's boys and stuff, and and that's their that's their stomping grounds. But I will say this there's right now with Pittsburgh's pizza, I I know I'm I'm pulling us away from what's scripted here on the I want to know your top pizza joint in Pittsburgh right now. Badamos 100%, yeah. Badamos is uh Bedamos is elite. A lot of people throw it up there. What do you got, Joe?

SPEAKER_01: 52:49

I feel like that's a tough one. I'm looking through the list. There are so many. There's so many good ones.

SPEAKER_00: 52:53

I feel like I know John's. I feel like I'm a convert, I would say that.

SPEAKER_01: 52:57

I feel like yours has to be you do use yours first, while I'm really okay.

SPEAKER_00: 53:02

So I grew up the part of the city I grew up in, my mom worked in Squirrel Hill, if you're a Yinzer. And so we would like twice a year get Minnios. And there's Minnios and IA Lowe's, those are both big Squirrel Hill spots or big Pittsburgh spots. Minions was like my the best pizza in my eyes until I got to like um pretty much like college. And then I get to college and um I play with a couple guys from the South Hills, and they introduced me to Fiores. And Fiori's in the South Hills, prime pizza spot. But what got me was the cold cheese. So shout out to Bill Stahl, he was our quarterback um at the time, and and he took me down to Fiore's, got some take the cold mozzarelli, put on a slice of Fiori's blah blah blah. But then when I met my wife, their family is from the South Hills, her dad is the biggest pizza fan on the planet. He he like anyway, we would eat Fiores once a week. I go from eating pizza like once every three, four, five months to like weekly pizza. So Fiores became a staple in our life. So I converted from Minos to Fiore's. Oh wow. If I had to rank it, it's pizza lupo in Pittsburgh, is my top pizza spot.

SPEAKER_01: 54:06

Pizza Lupo is elite. I was gonna say, between that and just the nostalgia of police station pizza for myself, yeah. I love that. Just banger.

SPEAKER_00: 54:13

Yeah. If you're a Yinzer and you're in Pittsburgh, let us know your top pizza spot because I because I'd love to hear it. All right, moving on to more Yinzer shit. And this is actually national Yinzer news. Yeah, we made the news. Let's go. The Mike McCarthy hire. The Steelers have a new head coach, and he's a Yinzer.

SPEAKER_03: 54:33

You know what I thought of before we get into this? You know what I thought of about like a week and a half ago, Joe? You and I were standing out in the shop, and it was like Mike Tomlin stepping down, and I was like, just kind of like out of it, and you're like, what's the matter with you? I'm like, Joe, what if what if we get someone worse? You're like, that would never happen, Sam.

SPEAKER_01: 54:51

This is a great It didn't happen now. He's technically not worse. You could argue he's better in the sense of he beat Mike Tomlin in a Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_03: 54:58

I feel like they're very similar.

SPEAKER_01: 55:00

Identical records, identical. I mean, McCarthy's developed more quarterbacks, but Tomlin's had better defenses.

SPEAKER_00: 55:07

So I am not a huge fan of the hire, but I will say I'm a fan of controlling what you can control, and it's completely out of our control. I choose to be a Steeler fan, which means I must support the decisions made by the you guys know this about me. With that being said, I'm hunting for silver linings in this hire. And my boys have been shredding, like they just are bitching, they're bitching like I'm not even gonna get into it, like what they're bitching like, but they're complaining um a ton about this hire. And don't get me wrong, I'm sitting here, I'm like, why didn't we get young blood? Why don't we get young blood? Why don't we get young blood? And then I gotta take um, I think his name's Patrick Michael Smith. He's uh he does sports on short form content. You could I think I think he's a Pittsburgh kid, I'm not positive. Um but I like his stuff. Uh, and he he did a take, and this kind of opened my eyes. I just sent this to my buddies yesterday because they're bitching about it yesterday. And it was essentially what you just said, Joe. It's like the Steelers' biggest problem and has been their biggest problem, even when they had Ben, was the development of quarterbacks, right? And then being an offensive prowess in an NFL that requires you to be uh good offensively, not just defensively, yeah, in order to win. And they went statistically and looked at it and they're like, Mike McCarthy has produced top five offenses, regardless of winning and long win-loss records, for over a decade. Right? He was when he was in Dallas, they were uh, excuse me, the three of the five years he was in Dallas top top top three, top five productive offenses, which is wild to think because Dallas really sucks, right? But statistically on paper, kind of killing it. He also has two disciples that are head coaches in the league right now, or OCs in the league, I think, right now, from his like uh echelon of coaches recently, which Tomlin has zero, which is why Debo is just destroying him on his podcast recently, is because Tomlin doesn't have any disciples. He doesn't, he doesn't I saw that clearly, he doesn't he doesn't train up coaches. So anyway, trying to find a silver lining. I went from being like, this hire is gonna be a struggle. Um, you know, what is what does Mike actually bring to the table compared to what Tomlin had? And then I was like, you know, at least he's an offensive-minded coach compared to a defensive-minded coach in a league that is primarily offense focused. Now, my hope here is whether it's Will Howard or they try to pick someone up in the draft, like we get Aaron coming back under a ridiculous contract because he has to get paid, I think, 43 million this year or something.

SPEAKER_01: 57:46

I think I think he signed a one-year 13 million last year.

SPEAKER_00: 57:48

But I think that I think after one year single contract, you have to uh whatever his tenure is, look that up. I'm pretty sure it's an insane amount. I'm hoping McCarthy comes in and grooms a quarterback, long-term quarterback. I think it sounds like it's not a very Steelers move to not go for like a 15-20-year coach. But if you I I think it they're looking at it and saying, let's get a five-year runway to um to potentially get that next guy in there, get him under McCarthy, maybe McCarthy grooms an OC up if they can snag one of these younger talents from around the league or something like that. Um I'm optimistic in that half. Now, I it's still a tough hire for me because I wanted to see some one of these guys coming off of like the Rams staff, but I guess Shula came in and botched the interview. Yes, is that what happened? Yeah, he just botched it. What did he do? How do you I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. You don't like that silver lining or do you seriously?

SPEAKER_01: 58:42

No, I I I think that it's it's a whatever hire. It's like one of the it's not flashy.

SPEAKER_00: 58:47

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01: 58:48

And honestly, I think you're giving the Pittsburgh organization too much credit for like that thought. I have to though.

SPEAKER_00: 58:52

I choose to be a good one.

SPEAKER_01: 58:53

I know, but I'm saying like you look at like I don't like to dwell on negative emotion. Oh, not being negative about it, but like McCarthy's connected to Pittsburgh. It's connected to work with Omar in New Orleans, knows the Rooney family. Totally. And I don't I don't think I think Rooney's running the Steelers right now. Dan, he's running this thing into the ground sometimes, I feel like. Oh dude the however I do think it's not the worst thing in the world. I think what McCarthy does well is he drafts well. I think he's developed players better. He drafted Micah Parsons, CeeDee Lamb, Tyron Smith. I mean, you could go down the list of people that probably will be Hall of Famers that he's drafted in his five years in talent. I mean then, you know, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, he had Dak Prescott, who probably developed a little bit more under him. That's not the worst thing in the world. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I think roster building is gonna be a big thing. They have some cap space. Uh like it's not like the flashiest higher, but I also don't think it could have been worse.

SPEAKER_00: 59:48

That's why I'm kind of thinking it's a mid tier, like it's a f it's a five year hire. Yeah, I don't think he's sixty two. What are you? Yeah. And then like, you know, that might have been the conversation is like, Mike, you've got five years. And give you a runway. Go get us something, and then we hear I don't know. That's what I'm hoping for.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:05

We'll see what the contract looks like.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:06

Yeah, that's the only part about it that makes me like uh kind of disappointed. Is I like the fact that the Steelers have that uh that reputation of like three coaches in the past like 50 years or whatever, and like like you said, I can't see him being here more than like a small stint. The only silver lining I found in it is just that maybe we get one more year of Aaron Rodgers. Because I I gotta tell you, I was after that last game, I was like, this isn't how he's supposed to go out. Not like this.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:30

This one I I don't know what his status is currently. I think he's still like in the he's in his you know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:36

Retreating is he on the retreat?

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:37

I maybe but like when you think about it, like everything you're saying is correct. I'm trying to find like what's that positive like. So I'm with like I'm with what you're saying in the regards to like developing players. He does draft well. Yeah, right. I think that's one thing that Tomlin lost in the last uh 10 years, actually never had. It was like just can't draft. Like Tomlin gets his hands in there, he drafts players. Like I was on the team when they drafted Jarvis Jones. Like, I remember Jarvis Jones literally tried to blitz in like the first week of practice. Willie Cologne put a palm on his chest, collapsed him completely. Like kid walked off the field. He's like, You've got no shot in this league. Like, right? He just like and like he didn't. Jarvis Jones had no business being a first-round draft pick in the NFL. But um, that continually happened, and then Tomlin lost that locker room. I don't know if McCarthy's the right guy to bring it back. Yeah, I think. But I also think that it's just gotta be an offensive first hire. Like, that's what the league is now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:33

I think that look at the Texans, right? He's fighting an uphill battle, McCarthy, right now, because everybody in that locker room loved Tomlin.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:41

They did. He was very much a player's coach.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:42

Yeah, to bring in McCarthy, whoever came in after Tomlin was gonna be fighting a battle. I don't think they find the biggest. For sure, but they're all pros. I mean, like they are, and you know they all want paid. I just think it's gonna be tough to like sway the masses at the start. The one thing I think McCarthy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:55

If he keeps Aaron around, yeah. I think Aaron can sway the.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:58

We'll see. I the one thing I the only my favorite part of the McCarthy hire, trying to find favorite parts of it, was he is from Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:06

That that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:06

He does get like the the pressure on the on the team and the city, and like the expectations are high, and I think that's missed a lot of times. Yeah. Like we always bitch about it, and people from other fan bases are always like, You guys don't know how good you have it, and it's like, I don't think you understand the expectation. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:24

And so it's just he has. I will say that like he's only coached in predominant football markets. He's Dallas, Green Bay, here three traditionally very difficult franchises to be a head coach for. He was in New Orleans for a while, too. The expect HC?

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:40

No, I don't think he's not as an HC as like an assistant when he got started.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:43

Yeah, yeah. No, he he was around for I'm what I'm saying is like the pressure to win in Green Bay, I would say the pressure to win in in Pittsburgh, the pressure to win in Dallas, the press like Green Bay's up there. Um there's like no and San Francisco is another another one that's like you're just expected to be a winning franchise in those cities.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:05

He was an OC in uh New Orleans and San Francisco.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:08

Yeah, so it's like only big markets. You know, New Orleans could suck, the league doesn't care. They've sucked for seven years, like the league doesn't care. But like when Dallas sucks, whole league's talking about it. When Green Bay sucks, whole league's talking about it. When the Steelers suck, whole league's talking about it, right? You literally hear every day on like Colin Coward or you hear any of these shows. San Francisco, the Steelers, you know, Dallas I would say I would throw Green Bay in there. When they're not good, whole league's talking about it, right? The Patriots are earning that spot too. When the Patriots suck, they'll they've got to be able to do that. So which brings me to the next point is like how absurd is it how fast both the Patriots and the Seahawks rebuilt. Yeah. Which is like one of those things you look at the Steelers, like they took some, they took some big L's. Yeah, they did. And then they're both back in the Super Bowl. They've been to more Super Bowls, both franchises collectively in the last seven years than the Steelers have been to in Tommen's entire coaching. I think they're both like I think they're four total. And they literally fired coaches, lost franchise quarterbacks, rebuilt from the ground up, put pillars in the Hall of Fame, and now they're back to the Super Bowl. So it's like it's it's pretty wild to see. I gotta be honest though, I got I'm not looking forward to it. The Super Bowl's not a good one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:30

That's what I like. There were the any other teams, I feel like I could have got more into it, but I'm like, these are the same guys that were just dominating when I was a kid. Like, I don't want I don't want them to be back here again.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:40

Well, it does feel like that because of the last 10 years, only three teams from the AFC have made the Super Bowl. Chiefs, Patriots, and the Bengals. No other team has made the Super Bowl in the last time. I never thought of that. So that's why it does feel like it's been forever because it's been one of three teams. And the Bengals only had one season, so it's the Chiefs or the Patriots. So, you know, it's just not not too exciting, but at the same time, it's like that's just they're good at football.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:03

Which is like you gotta give a knockout ownership.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:07

Which is like where I think the Steelers are losing it, is like they're they're stuck in an old, old way where they're willing to turn shit over fast in these other franchises. I was watching the Seahawks, and I'm literally texting my buddies. I watched the game against the Steelers, and I thought it was like the Steelers had that muffed kick return. Yeah, yeah. If you recall, they made some stupid mistakes, but I'm like, there's no way Sam Darnold's this good. Like this thing, this is the Seahawks, they're like a joke of a franchise in my eyes, right? Yeah, I'm I've like, it's it's just one of those, like they're not an early franchise, they're like an expansion team. The Seahawks, right? Steelers wiped up floor with them in 2000 in that excuse me in Super Bowl 40. Like, I've never been a fan. And then I'm watching them play and I'm like, this team's so good. Yeah. Like, how did they get this good, right? Yeah, that uh that receiver they have, DJS, whatever. Um JSD Jackson Smith. Dude did that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:57

Jackson Smith. That dude is unbelievable. Yeah, he might be the best receiver in the league. Ohio State. He he was trekking for 2,000 yards for quite a while there. He's elite, he's a great route runner. Bro, and say so smooth. You know what his knock was out of why people passed on him? He was slow. Is he his 40 time was slow, but he doesn't run like it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:14

Dude, he looks like A B reincarnated out there. Yeah, like doesn't drop the ball, his body positioning is phenomenal. He's smooth as shit, he is quick out of breaks like this. I've never I literally have not sat down to watch the dude play, and I'm watching that game, and I'm just like, shit, LA can't cover this guy, right? And then they're like shifting coverages to like stack him. And I'm talking to my buddy who's like real big in fantasy. He's like, he he's like the best receiver in the league. Like that arguably, like you can't you can't say there's anyone better than him.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:44

Yeah, he ran a four uh four four eight and a four-five three. So people were like, man, he's too slow, like just a route runner gonna be in the slot.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:52

He's smaller, right? He's not like he's not like a big body guy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:55

I want to say he's uh like six foot maybe.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:59

But he's not like six foot. Yeah, he's like A B was smaller than that. Was he? Oh, dude, A B's not a big dude. A B played huge. Oh, wow, yeah. Oh, wait, that's that's not uh I was like, that's not A B. But I remember playing with A B. Still Yeah, he's probably closer to like five nine. I had no clue. But A B played huge. Yeah, like he you couldn't ignore his presence. Any incredible route runner. Like Tony Totep. Dude, he was when yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:29

I miss watching him run routes, I will say. We were spoiled for so long. So long didn't even realize it in the moment how good he was.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:35

You know what I could do. I told you you know, you know who knew? You know who knew? Ben. Yeah, Ben knew, like, dude, I'm it was like poetry watching those two play. Yeah. Being on that team. It was like, what a blessing, right? And my god. But watching that dude, this this dude for Seahawks play. Yeah, like JSN. I'm like, he reminds me of A B. It's like you just have to be very aware of where he's at on the field. He'll beat you in the slot, he'll beat you tight, he'll beat you in a bunch, he'll beat you one-on-one. Like, Jamar Chase is is a great receiver. I don't know if he has the skill set that dude has.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:09

And Jamar Chase is a is a I didn't think the Seahawks were gonna be good at the start of the year because when they signed Cooper Cup and they drafted JSN, I'm like, like two you know, slot dominant receivers. I'm like, how's it gonna work? And then just watching their scheme is just like man, Darnold slinging that thing. They're so creative with their route concepts, their trees, like the kid married the ball too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:30

I was like, he's shifty as hell. Yeah, um whatever his name Kenneth Walker. Dude, I was I was and I'm like I said, I haven't watched him all season. See, I'm texting my buddies like, yeah, who the hell is this guy?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:38

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:38

And I'm like, this is nuts. And I and I I I think they walk the Patriots, like I think they wax them. I don't I think the Seahawks win. I don't think, dude, the Patriots are a good football team. Yeah, and they're gonna come out and want they'll be playing for like souls.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:52

I want the Seahawks to win. Yeah. I think it'd be a cool story for Sam Darnold to go from like first, uh, was he the first pick or second pick? Yeah, first or like top five pick to like being considered a bust for years and then like his career revives. Resurrected. He's the first quarterback from that draft class to make the Super Bowl between Baker, Lamar, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold. He's the first one. So that's crazy to me if he gets a bull before them, like holy shit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:15

Like they yeah. That and I mean like as much as I love Vrabull, I love what he's done, yeah. I will say, like, I just don't I just don't think they have what it takes to get over the hump why just watching that Seattle team play. Because I'm like Stafford was out there playing, playing like lights out. Yeah, he was. He they had some drops, like they had some miscommunications on offense, and he was like he was throwing dimes, and that defense just couldn't stand up to Seattle. They don't have any superstars on that defense.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:46

I wonder what uh his runner is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:48

They don't have any superstars that they don't have any superstars for for the Patriots either.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:51

You think Stafford's gonna hang it up soon?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:53

I think Stafford, no, he'll win an MVP this year, and then he'll come back at least for he has a hefty contract, too. I mean, it's he does, but then he's playing he's playing elite football.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:01

Yeah, they put a couple pieces. He's in LA too, so he's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:04

Yeah, they got the weather on his side. Taxes I was talking about, but yeah. He he got weather on his side, so his body's not gonna like deteriorate like it does somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:13

I think uh I never thought about it like that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:16

Yeah, I think I think the warm weather quarterbacks play a lot better longer because you're not you're unless you're Tom Brady, but Tom Brady's he went he went to the warmth and played longer, so he did. He also like he's an alien, like completely changed his life and like what he eats. Like if you ever look at the D B12 diet, D B12, it's nuts. I thought that was a scam for so long. No, I looked at it and I was like, you're a psychopath, Tom. You deserve everything you've ever gotten in life. I don't have that discipline, right? So uh with that being said, though, I don't like saying it, but I'm taking the Seahawks if I have to pick a winner, Joe. I'm taking the Hawks.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:52

Seahawks, I just I just don't want the Patriots to get another Super Howard.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:55

We can't do this, we can't all pick the same thing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:58

I don't think anyone here wants a Patriot Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:00

No, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:01

I want a Vrabel Super Bowl. I want I that to me is one of the greatest football stories in history. Is Mike Vrabel as a human being? I love the way he coaches. I've seen some behind-the-scenes clips of like him in the locker room, and like he became how we do it, us together, you know, kind of like I love it, but they are the Patriots at the end of the day, and if they do win this Super Bowl, it would put them as the prime franchise in football as having the most Super Bowls, and I don't want that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:28

Yeah, well, he would be the first weird stats you get for the first coach to win a Super Bowl with that team and then coach the team to a Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:37

I think also the first coach in their first year to go this deep. He's a first year coach.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:43

Was Tomlin? Isn't Tomlin's?

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:44

Second year.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:45

Was it his second year?

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:46

First year they went 16 and 1, if you remember.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:48

Was it was it Ben's first year that he won't be? He wasn't he wasn't a rookie, it was his, he didn't play the first year, right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:53

Ben Ben, no, yeah, Ben was a backup his first year. That was 2001. And then went to the Super Bowl in 2005. Right. And then Tomlin went in 2008 and won. That was Tomlin's second year, I believe. Gotcha. What a time. Anyway. Who do you guys got? It's I I'm not looking forward to it. Um my buddies and I were saying, like, we don't know anyone on the field. Um pretty wild. So let us know. Um okay, I guess there has been a couple. Gruden. Grand Gruden. Gruden's Buccaneers in 2002 was like to be seen. You guys weren't alive. But we were alive, we just wore it. Follow the football.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:35

Alright. Up next, um, we're transitioning into our favorite segment. You guys love Is It Normal?

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:42

Ooh, is it normal? With John, Sam, and Joe.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:46

We should get like a chime when that people. We should do that. I'll just sing that every time. No, that wasn't that didn't make sense. We'll edit it up, like add some like repeat words in there. Some like lights, dusty music. Alright, up first, is it normal? We touched on this earlier, but wearing the same jeans for a week straight without washing them.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:06

100% normal. Yeah. Put those jeans on until they stink, baby. It's normal.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:10

There we go. What do you think? Unless they're heavily stained, less you're unless you're heavily stained in the same thing. You're going look, not smell. Because I'm like, cover them shits in oil.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:18

I don't care.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:18

I don't think I mean I think uh denim's not like cotton. I feel like it takes a lot to get a stink on some denim. Plus, it's on your legs, too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:25

You get like it depends on what you're getting on. You go grass stain, right? Yeah, but it does smell like way faster than like sawdust or oil. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Oil's kind of a good smell though, isn't it? To be honest here. Give me some gasoline all day. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:39

Um, is it normal re-wearing gym clothes if you didn't sweat that much? Repulsive.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:44

Yeah, it's not normal at all. I agree with that. I'm a I'm an avid. It's actually probably terrible for my skin, but like if I sweat at all, I shower immediately. Close a rate in the laundry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:54

Yeah. Any kind of gym work, workout, you've got to change clothes after. Put them, wash them. Yep.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:00

Even like the depending on where you're working out, too, like the equipment and stuff. If you're going to like a public place too, and you're all over all that equipment.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:06

You're getting that ringworm off you.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:07

Oh, yeah. You don't know what's going to be on there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:11

Dude, I I can't I I find it despicable when you just like hang out in your workout clothes for like hours after. You're like, let's go to lunch. I'm like, no. Let's go f bathe. Dirt bag.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:23

Is that wrong?

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:24

No, you're not wrong at all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:26

You're not wrong. I find myself sometimes. It depends. I like will wear sweats when it's this cold out in a hoodie, and I'll go back to my apartment and I'll just I'll eat a protein shake for like 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:35

Just chill.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:35

Just chill. And then I'll go shower. I have to shower before doing anything else, but yeah, not immediately. Like I don't run home to shower. I'll make a shake first and then shower.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:45

First thing I do, if I'm at a public gym and I can't shower there, I'm driving home, I'm not literally not speaking to a person. I'm straight in the door in the shower. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:54

Showering instantly. I remember that's a big thing with like wrestling. They're like, it's almost time sensitive. They're like some of the stuff that could be on your body. If you get in that shower right away, you're good. But you don't want to.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:05

Some people like think it's a little goofy to shower more than a couple times a day. It's really not good. A couple times a day? Like once or if you work out in the morning and then you shower at least twice a day. And then maybe you go to work and shower in the evening. People think that's that's goofy. I think that's normal.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:18

I go home, I'll shower after work or before bed. So I'll get in my bed clean, and then I'll get up, I'll work out, and then I'll shower again and come in here.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:26

See I'm once a once a day. I've never used multiple showers.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:29

But you care about like your hair, you also don't work out.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:32

Well.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:33

If you worked out, you would shower after.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:35

Yeah, but I would shower after Yeah, but what like even whenever I did that, like even when I was coaching, I would just shower when I got home like from like work and practice and then start the day off again. Like I wouldn't take a morning shower.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:48

But you didn't work out in the morning. You didn't work out in the morning. Oh no. I just call it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:53

If you're working out in the morning, that's different. Full C two showers.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:57

We had like five, six a.m. lifts. I'd shower immediately after. Oh, everyone did, yeah. And then you'd have practice again later that day. Shower again. You shower again after that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:04

So, like, yeah, okay, in those circumstances, I could see that. But yeah, constantly two showers a day.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:09

I'm not showering for any sense except I got gross and I need to clean off.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:13

Right. All right. This one, John, I think you're gonna have a strong opinion on. Is it normal double dipping chips at a party where you don't know everyone?

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:22

This is this is my rule. If if everyone's sober, you just stick to one dip. But everyone's got a good buzz on, you could dip it as many times as you want. You're in that flow state, and you could just start dipping. You can't see yourself, no one could see you. Double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:42

Yeah. What the f are you eating? You need to dip it that many times. Pentec? Yeah, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:50

Load it up heavier in the first go-round.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:52

Yeah, it's not it's not about that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:54

Bugs bunny in that shape?

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:55

Like you get like a nice nice queso or something like that, and you just want to just over and over again. It's about getting more of the dip than the chip. The chip is just kind of like a uh it's like a traveling device to get the the uh the chip is a traveling device to get the dip in the chip. That's that's too far.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:12

You are a dys despicable human. Oh well, everyone here's double dip. Yeah, I double dip in the confinements of my own home when it's just myself eating a chip.

SPEAKER_03: 1:17:21

You should be more inclined to do it when it's strangers. You'll never see these people again. You'll also get like uh whatever they have. They're probably too scared to double dip to be the trailblazer and you're that person that's double dipping, they're seeing you're like oh.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:34

The cock with the buzz never so ever.

SPEAKER_00: 1:17:36

He doesn't fear the sickness, Joe. He doesn't fear the ailments. Nah, probably build up your immune system. I'm I'm dude, I am spooning that shit on my own plate, and I'm still single dipping. See, I feel like that that you're a grown adult. What is going in your mouth that requires multiple dips? That'd be a red flag. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_03: 1:17:54

That's a red flag if I see you just putting some dip on a plate. I think you got bodies under your house. That's so normal.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:01

What do you mean? Well, you're standing at the crock pot spoon.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:04

It's a community event. Everyone's gathered around the dip. I'm gonna give it one, you give it one, everyone's going to dip.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:09

Stop taking my portion and I'm going to eat it how I please.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:12

Take it down to your secret basement room, and I just w I'll go back up for some more. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:18

I want to know what vessel requires multiple dips.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:21

This vessel right here.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:22

What are you eating a whole tortilla and just like fisting that thing in there and biting corners out? Like, what needs more than one dip?

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:28

A good queso.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:29

But your chip is still only this big.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:31

Exactly. So think of it. What are you biting in corner off and then put it back together to do that? You can get at least probably three dips out of a chip. Get out of here. Three?

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:41

Three!

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:42

You could probably get three.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:44

Come on, man. You are out of your mind, Joe.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:47

Next question. Do not normalize double dipping. Do not normalize eating a chip in more than one bite. No grown man should eat a chip in less than one bite.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:55

Double dip in your own home. Not strange. You and I are going a double dip in the night. Oh, man. Get out of here. Alright, up next. Is it normal ordering the most expensive item when someone else is paying?

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:10

My father-in-law makes this joke every time. He's like, oh, if I knew you were paying, I'd get the seafood tower. Doesn't matter what restaurant we're at, if they have it or not. He doesn't do it, but he loves that joke. I think it's not normal. I think it's quite ignorant. That's horrible. That's yeah, you shouldn't do that. It's not normal. However, do you go in and announce you're paying? Are you talking like corporate? Like if I was paying for dinner, I'm like, guys, we're going out to dinner. You're like, I'm getting filet, give me seven toppings. I want lobster. I want crab. I want the five.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:38

Is it preface beforehand? Hey, we're going to dinner. I'm treating you guys. Get whatever you would like.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:42

You're going ham.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:43

Yeah. I'm okay. Then I'm I probably still won't out of my own subconscious get the most expensive, but like maybe I'll get a drink or like a nicer drink, a bourbon, a whiskey, whatever.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:52

Yeah, you're like, give me the top shelf.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:54

Yeah, rather than you know, I'm drinking whatever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:58

I feel like sometimes I'm a Feel like limited whenever someone's like, please, I insist on paying for this. Like, no, no, I don't want to like, no, let me pay. Then I'm like, now I feel like I'm limiting myself as to what I'm gonna get. Like, if I was gonna pay for it alone, it's like no holds barred. I'm gonna order whatever I want. It's like shit. Now I have like parameters. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:14

We have to change the culture. Maybe we just gotta, when people offer to pay, order the most expensive shit so people stop offering to pay.

SPEAKER_03: 1:20:20

I think it's 16 beers.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:23

I feel like I feel like I feel like it's the food that's not the like at the end of the day, the food's not what gets you, it's the booze. It's the alcohol. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:31

That's where my mind goes right away. Yeah. You could eat pretty cheap and get something nice. You had alcohol too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:36

No, you could literally get the$75 steak. Yeah. You get three double drink double bourbons or double whatever people drink, like, right? You're at a hundred bucks. Yeah. You're like, what the hell is a thirty-three dollar like frickin' whatever you got? And you know, that's where you get smoked. We took our neighbors out to dinner a couple weeks ago. And uh, I was looking at the check, and the drinks were we my neighbor's birthday was his 40th. I think he had three drinks, and the three drinks were a hundred bucks. Yeah. Right? And I only had I had one, and I was like, man, I spent$120 on drinks, and like I wasn't even that into it. I was like, it wasn't even that good. I just drank one to celebrate your birthday with you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:13

And I was like, I mean, you get pissed about it, but it was uh So that actually segues me perfect into our next uh Is It Normal.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:20

No, it's not normal. Do not run up a tab when someone else is paying.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:23

Is it normal to split a bill evenly, even when you ordered way less than the other person?

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:28

Don't come to dinner with me. I'm just saying it this way. I do not, I don't go out for the meal. I go out for the convenience of being served. Okay? So, like, if I want to eat a meal, I'll probably just order it in and serve myself. Like, I'll get takeout. But if I want to be served, then I'm literally going to be served. I'm ordering whatever appetizers I want, I'm ordering whatever sides I want. If you're sitting down at the table with me and you even think you're gonna be paying less than half of the bill, right? Pay off, we're not friends anymore. Because like we're not going out, I'm not going out because I I'm feeling lazy. Like, I don't go out because I'm lazy. I go out because I want to be served. So like if we went to dinner, we got two appetizers, we both are married, they got entrees, whatever. I'm not even looking at the cost. Yeah. I've never have. Split it down the middle.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:21

I don't think that's foreign. I don't think that's wrong at all.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:23

People get pissed off though. They're like, well, John ordered the appetizers, and I'm like, we're having a meal together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:29

Like, what I don't care if you're don't invite me to dinner. I've been to dinner where people don't even really you're with a group and it's not like, hey, would you guys eat these appetizers? It's just, hey, give us this, not knowing if someone you know might like it or they're allergic to it or whatever the case is, and then they can't partake in the consumption of it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:47

I do always ask, I almost say I'm very selective.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:49

I think it's kind of asking. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like if you're doing like a group appetizer, like everyone's if everyone's taking part in it, just split it how it lays. But I do agree if there's like intentional, like I'm gonna get some of this shit for myself and I'm gonna get like a$90 entree.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:04

I think it's more important. Okay, are you out to dinner though? Here's the kicker. Here's the kicker to this question. Are you out to dinner with people you want to be out to dinner with? Are you being forced into going to dinner? Because I feel like your emotions in that regard and have you approach that check completely different.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:18

Yeah, if you're forced to go out split having that uneven split, that's it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:21

I'm getting a whole separate bill if I don't even want to be there. Right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:24

I'm talking like wife's like sorority sister, twice removed, in town, begging to go to dinner, haven't talked to her in eight years, you don't like her, dinner with her boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:36

That sounds hyper specific. I would say I have a great relationship with my wife's sorority sisters. They're all like the best. I'm giving a hypothetical here. I mean, if it was, if I hadn't talked to them in forever and it was one of those things where I don't want to be going to dinner, yeah, we're splitting that shit. Like, I I don't Yeah, you're itemizing it? I'm itemizing it. Give me two separate bills before they even get there. I'm telling the waitress. I'm flexing. You. I'm taking the whole bill. Leave my life forever. There's a moment for that. I think that's not wrong, but I also think like some people want to pay for their own stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. People, I've met people that dislike whenever you pay for them. Like, and it's not like it's be it's almost as if it's like a weird dynamic. Like, you don't want to be paid for, and you you resent it. You're like, no, I'm like, I get your take mine, split it with me, I want to pay. And it's like, I don't view that as bad, but sometimes you want to do a nice thing and you know, pay for someone, you just can't do it. People just don't like it. People hate it. Like my dad. My dad, I paid for dinner. I went to dinner with um my wife's family, um, and I paid for dinner Saturday, and my dad was like angry at me that it so he gave me$80 in cash for a tip. He wouldn't let me tip it. He wouldn't let me tip, yeah. But he he won't let you pay for it by yourself. He has to give at least something towards the tip if you're gonna pay for the bill.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:54

I respect that. I'm just saying, like, yeah, I feel like most of the time, like I'm not going to dinner with people that don't understand how I order. I got a buddy, Rami, love going to dinner with Rami. Yeah. Because Sarah and I are very much like, we want to try the menu. Like I said, I'm going to dinner to be served. Right? I could pretty much cook as well as like most restaurants, unless we get like you can too. You cook good shit. Go cook some good shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:18

With some restaurants, though.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:19

But think about it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I'm not going to like a Thai restaurant. I don't know how to cook any of that shit. But I want to try a bunch of stuff, right? Yeah. So I'm going to order four or five appetizers. I don't give a shit if you want to try it. Yeah. Right? And then we're splitting that bill, or we're never going to dinner again. Yeah. Like you don't argue with me, right? I'm also not going to sit here and be like, well, you your martini was$14 and my beer was six.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:41

Like You gotta pay for it. Maybe you just keep upping the ante, you're just trying to match what there's. Two more beers, please. Like we're gonna make this even. If it's not, we're gonna ensure that it is a little bit more than a little bit of a few.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:51

Do you feel like the even split is like like it's uh it's an olive branch and like equality of the friendship, right? Or like the relationship, right? Like like paying for your parents is an acknowledgement, in my opinion, as like the younger party of saying that like I acknowledge you as peers and like I appreciate you, not like you're my parents, you have to take care of me. Yeah, when our parents look at it and go, like, fuck dad, I'm the dad. Like, yeah, yeah. It's like a little, you know what I mean? It's like a flip. So if I go to dinner and it's like, hey, you know, you guys cool with splitting us down the middle, right? I'm always taking the check second anyway. I'm trying to, you know, yeah, like but um my father-in-law does it all the time. Like he's pretty funny with the like office.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:34

We had a good dinner with him. I feel like he'd be fun to go to dinner.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:36

He loves he loves they go out to dinner like four nights away.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:38

Good old Westminster Grand.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:40

See, I feel like dinner, it does this sort of stuff. I feel like doesn't happen as much with like dinner. The thing that'll annoy me, and I haven't done it in a while. Yeah, like like I said, I don't go out nearly as much as I used to, but that would annoy me. You go out with a group of people, there's a crowd, so one person's gonna go get the drinks. Like, what do you want? What do you want? What do you want? Okay, that was like$111. It's like, I'll get you back later, everyone's drunk. You wake up the next morning, it's like I'm owed so much.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:05

At least you guys were you guys were probably in the bar scene when Venmo was like a thing. That didn't exist uh when I was back. Like you were you were you were running dudes down for cash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when you're broke, you're like, hey, you can just Venmo request people nowadays.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:20

Right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:22

We didn't have that. I'm with you though, there. Like thinking back on it, I was always an avid. If I wanted to buy the drinks, take my card. If you're the runner, go to the bar or put or I'd open a tab and pay my tab and then just eat it. Yeah, right. If people I had shitty friends that I don't talk to anymore that would just run my tab up, right? And then but then I had a buddy, like I had a good good friend of mine when I was playing football, he would insist on paying every time, right? And it was like his acknowledgement, like he couldn't come out often, but when he did, he was like, party's not me, boys, right? So you just always put it on on his tab. Um, and then people got really used to like putting that shit on. And yeah, and so you're looking at comical volumes, but then you do it one time. Remember the first time I ever played an NFL game, we'll wrap it up with this. I the first game I ever got into was against the Browns. We won. It was the last game of the season, right? It was a one o'clock game, so the game was done like 4 30. Everyone met at the bar, it was like 6 30, 7 o'clock. I just handed them my credit card, and we were local on the south side. That thing came back, it was like four to ceiling, right? And it was just it was like$3,000. It was like comedically for a bar tab with no bottle service. You're like, that's kind of you're buying five dollar drinks at a time. Yeah, that's nice. It was it was a six hundred dollars. There was like six guys, like it wasn't like we were buying the whole bar. Anyway, um someone someone someone framed it, like kept the kept the receipt. It was it was insane. It was yeah, it was like a six-foot-tall frame, like a mirror. Um those were good times, but I will I'm gonna go with Sam on this one. Like drink tabs specifically, don't split them evenly, right? If you're drinking if you're drinking like double crowns and we're at a normal bar, it's gonna be significantly more expensive than Bud Lights.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:09

You know, and that's kind of a dick move. Dinner, always split even. Or just pay the bill. Be a man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:15

Last but not least, that kind of transitioned us well into this. Is it normal Venmo requesting someone for less than five dollars? Despicable behavior.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:23

Uh only if you're like high school, college age, maybe that's the only time. Like, I feel like once I got out of college, I feel like the stingy Venmo request just went away. I used to have a buddy at the beginning of college, like before Venmo, I mean Venmo was around, but it wasn't as big. You borrow money, like you like be out somewhere, like I don't have any uh money on me. Can I get five bucks? He would make you hold it up. He'd take a photo and he had a folder in his phone. He's like, anytime someone borrows money, I've got it right here. Don't worry, when you pay me back, I'll delete the photo. I'm like, this is psychotic behavior.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:57

I will say, I think it's kind of brilliant. Honestly, as much as you might hate that, I kind of love that. Maybe not for the small incremental amounts, but like, I mean, come on, that's a great system.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:08

You feel shameful, they're like, go ahead, hold it up by your face there, like geez. I don't know. He's shaming you into paying back a photo off his phone. That's black. What if they start doing that at banks? You take out a loan, they get a photo with it, they got a wall, it's paid off of the phone. People that have his money.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:26

That guy owes us a shit ton of money. Maybe we should start doing that. Open a bank. That that's our way to get people. Mr.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:32

Beast is opening a bank. I um God. Because Venmo didn't exist. Like, I will always say if you lend someone like a little bit of money, uh, it always comes back to you, you know. So I I'm not that kind of person I never have been to like hunt someone down. But this is super common with parents now. I don't know if you guys have seen this. Is like you'll have kids over for a play date and people will itemize a Venmo receipt and send it to the parent afterwards. What? Get the one packet of crackers, two packets of gummy bears, they had this, they had that, and they'll they'll send it, they'll be like, you know, you owe me$16.50 as a parent, and they'll send it to the other parent for a play date. I'm I I looked at Sarah and I was like, we will never do that. Don't ever have people over there. And then two, don't have people over. Yeah. Right? If you're if you're going to charge them to be in your existence. If you were if your financial situations require you to itemize your friends, you should probably rethink what you're doing with your time, right? Instead of itemize billing your friends to have your kids play together.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:33

Yeah, for food stuff, but like you don't need money to have a good time as children. Like, what are your kids doing that at all?

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:39

So I'm saying they're charging for juice boxes and and and it's nuts. They'll be like, I drove the kids to the to the playground, which is one and a half miles away. Uh, my gas mileage breakdown for price. You're like, what? People do the shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:31:54

That's just wild to think of like like a nine-year-old having like a running tab at someone's house. Like, I'm like, that's how friends real bad.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:01

If I ever had kids, my kid would not be going back to that person's house.

SPEAKER_03: 1:32:04

Ever.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:05

Ever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:32:05

Either that or I'd send them back one more time. I'd be like, I need everything you can. Just go as hard as possible.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:13

Get them all sugared up, like give them just a bunch of red dye and like sugar beforehand. Get in there and tear that shit to pieces. Yeah. You little devil. Go! I can't believe I've never heard of that. Isn't that wild? This shit was all over the internet for the past two years. It is despicably deplorable behavior, in my opinion. Yeah. Things are tough out there, man, but for sure. That's why I'm saying you should reconsider your time, right? It's like, oh, or you're, you know, don't host the play date if you can't. Right? Or kids don't need a glass of water.

SPEAKER_03: 1:32:43

When they're kids too, they have like no concept of, you know, like yeah, I feel like it's different. It's like you're like an adult at like a hotel like mini bar where it's like if I drink this water, it's five bucks. Like they're they're kids.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:54

Dude, it's one of those things like you don't understand how much your kids waste until you have one, and you're literally like, I'm I'm just throwing out one quarter drink of juice boxes all day long. I'm like, I don't know which kid touched this. You look over, Maggie's got a like a marker that's got some magic shit that can't draw on anything in her mouth, and then she's sucking on a juice box. I'm like, Well, can't give that to any other kid. Like, I don't know what's going on here, right? Magic half-eaten bags of this and that, dogs ripping through. Yeah, oh dude, kids and cups and drinks and half-eaten, you just you just get ready to like money on fire.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:25

Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:26

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