Our Dads Were Right About Everything

Our Dads Were Right About Everything
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In this episode, we finally admit it: our dads were right about everything (even the thermostat). We’re also debating if an average guy could actually medal in the Winter Olympics and mourning how McDonald’s just doesn’t hit the same as it did in the 90s.

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Transcript

Cold Opens And Today’s Debate

SPEAKER_01 0:00

The Winter Olympics, I'm making that team. Guaranteed. So our dads were right about everything. Whether it was don't mess with the thermostat or you probably shouldn't be hanging out with that guy. Nothing good happens after midnight. At some point in our lives, all of these things came true, and I absolutely hate it. So today we're getting into it. We're going to debate which one of those are now affecting our lives and if we have any advice that potentially we'd pass down to our kids. We're also getting into the uh winter Olympics and whether we think we could meddle, which let's be honest here, I know I could. And um talking about McDonald's back in the heyday. At some point in this episode, we're gonna be having a thermostat argument. There might be a fight over curling, and who knows? But this should be a fun one. So this is a slightly above average podcast with myself, Mr. Sampo, and Joe Minert. Things are gonna get deep, so grab yourself a shot, a beer, or whatever you got to do to get through the day. And we're getting into it. So we're switching things up today. Instead of doing Sam's special segment at the beginning of the show, we're actually going to do that exclusively in the Builder Bunker this week. Uh, Sam made a homemade soup. I think it deserves its own episode exclusively in the Builder Bunker. So check that out. I'm super interested in your guys' opinions this week on the things that your dad turned out to be 100% right about. Because I have so many instances growing up where my old man was just pummeling me and Jeff with like life advice that at the time just felt so wrong, but now you're like, damn it, I sound just like him because I say it all the time. You got any?

SPEAKER_03 1:39

Me? Yeah, a lot of mine pertain to like workshop things. I feel I was trying to like rack my brain this this week. I'm like, what are some things that like my dad always says, but they're all related to like the workshop. Uh remember, he was always real big on uh whenever you're making something, he's like, just remember, like whenever you make something, put it in somewhere, someone's gonna tear it out one day, and they're gonna judge you on it. They're gonna judge you based on how it comes out. And I was like, that can't be a thing, like when is that ever gonna happen? But then when I got my house, it was an older fixer upper. I had to tear out these cabinets in the wall, and it was the most just it was just the worst process of my life. It was like a cabinet that was half put together with wood and wooden fruit boxes. It was liquid nailed to the wall. There were like four-inch screws, like straight bit screws. It was it was horrible. And the whole time I said, Who was the psycho that made this?

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Your dad's just ringing in your head like someone's ripping this out one day, and your name's on it. It's kind of like a paranoid thought to have, too.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

It'll give you a little anxiety when you're building something where it's a little anxiety. Who's gonna judge me in like 85 years for this?

SPEAKER_01 2:41

That might be the that might be where anxiety started. Yeah, maybe. Someone ripping out a cabinet that you built and like your house is a hundred years old.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Yeah, it is hundred years. It was a horrible cabinet, yeah. In a hundred years, someone will someone's gonna tear this out of the wall. And they'll judge you. And they're gonna judge the shit out of you.

Workshop Pride And Being Judged Later

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Put it in right. Mm-hmm. Man, my dad, he used to. I now I feel like as an adult, understand the because I said so saying. As a kid, I hated it. Yeah. Whatever it was. And now it's like you get into arguments with people or you're trying to say something, and it just turns into because I said so. And I think it's the lack of bandwidth to want to explain yourself. Yes. You just feel a way, and I feel that shit so deeply to this. That was like my dad's number one saying, 'Because I said so.' I'm like, but why? Because I said so. And it was just, I feel that to my core. Between that and probably like they always say nothing good happens after midnight. I feel like that's a real thing I've learned as I've gotten older.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Trying to be home at a good time, I mean, out late. I feel like drivers are worse. You deal with drunk drivers sometimes if you're out and about holidays, New Year's. Stuff like that has been, I don't know. That man was right about a lot of things I never could have imagined.

Because I Said So And Midnight Rules

SPEAKER_01 3:56

My my my so my dad had a a pretty difficult upbringing. He was one of five. He was the uh neglected middle child. Um, and he was and he was as hard as he could be without being like abusive to me and my brother, because he wanted us to get the hard life lessons. Like he grew up in a world where like he literally got in a fist fight every single day coming home from school. Like didn't want that for us. So I commend him for that, but he wanted us to still get the lessons of like taking care of yourself, and so he was like always he just didn't want me and Jeffrey to be soft, right? So he he called like we would do things, and then it was always like you know, teasing us that you know you could be better, right? Or someone else is better. So he had this motto. He's like, it was basically like no matter what you do in life, right? There's always going to be someone bigger and better than you, right? And he I remember him like beating this into our heads as kids. Yeah. Not physically beating, but like like verbally, like all the time, right? So like you know, you're the best player on your football team, right? But there's someone better. You're the best player on like you come home. I remember distinctly, I came home from it was a I was a sophomore, it was the first day of practice. Our sophomores, juniors, and seniors played high school football. Um, sophomores, there was no freshman on the team, right? So your first year in training in camp is is as a sophomore. The first day of practice, I got elevated to varsity, right? And so there was this is this is 2002, three, like uh there were three a day practices which are now illegal, right? It was a different time. Yeah. I come home after being at footballs from 6 a.m. till 7 p.m. And I like have my blue jersey, which is what you got when you made varsity, right? And I told him about it, and he's like, Took you long enough, right? Like it was like one of those literally, it was the first, like I could not have gotten it before, but I didn't get it earlier. So so that kind of stuff. And then he also had one phrase that he hit me and my buddies with all the time, and he would literally just spell out the word J-O-B over and over and over, and just reiterate to us because he like he like would always assimilate me and my buddies who were hanging out at the house to being freeloaders and taking advantage of like eating the food and stuff. Nine, right? But he would be like, one day you you gonna get your ass out there and get a J-O-B, everything's gonna change, right? And so he always said that we make after meeting your dad, and like that voice was so accurate. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, all the time. Me and my buddies still make fun of him for it, right? But he but he was so right, and I think what he missed on that if I was to reiterate this when I reiterate it to my children, will be more that like you don't understand at a young age that the actual impact you will have on the world will come from whatever career field you decide to get into. For the most part, you spend most of your time there, they're the people you spend most of your time with, right? And just like your dad's saying, like, install this shit because right, because someone's gonna throw it out. Like, that's your imp literally that's your legacy. Yeah. In the wall, it's like he was yeah, I think he was trying to iterate to us that your job and your your your life's profession will be dramatically important to who you become in life, right? So you should take that shit serious at a young age because he started working when he was like 15, right? So it's like yeah, and then he worked till he was 60. Like, yeah, that was it. That was all he ever did. That raised us, like, boom. Like and and I didn't realize how dramatic that was. And there's also like, I will say, their generation came out of the the the baby boomer, or not excuse me, not the baby boomers, like the the the the greatest generation, yeah, who were just like cold and completely disconnected from emotion, right? Like they're just like you know, coming out of a massive world war. They were just raised different. I feel like very distilled it down to us. Now it's like our lives are so soft and connected and like so many different things. But J O B, right?

J-O-B, Legacy, And Work Ethic

SPEAKER_02 7:48

And then also, you know My dad still to this day, like one thing he's always done, he was the only one in our house growing up that could touch the thermostat. Uh it's like yeah, and so no one else could touch it. And to this day, like recently, um they were having some heating problems at their house, and and he wouldn't touch the thermostat. Their house was like a popsicle. My mom was bitching every day, was freezing, you need to turn the heat up. And so my dad's like, nope, I'm not doing it. The bills are gonna skyrocket. And so my mom, we were at dinner over the weekend, and she's like, Your dad came prancing in the other day because he saved like$200 off the electric bill, and like it was just proof that what he did was right. And I'm thinking to myself, like, maybe he's onto something. I don't know. I gotta look more into this thermostat thing and keeping it low.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

It's a rite of passage once you become older. My dad was never like a household thermostat stickler, but in a for whatever reason, in a vehicle. I just remember like being a kid, he'd like drive me out to like the bus stop because we were like out in the country, so you had to like go like down like a pretty long road. Never let me turn the heat on before the the the uh the car got up or the van got up to operating temperature and like let's turn that heat on. It's like no, no, no. You gotta let it warm up or it's gonna take longer. And I don't even I've I don't even I've even verified that it can't be that much of a difference, but I find myself in my own truck, like, not yet. Not yet. That's a real thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

I mean, I'm sure it takes a little bit less, but I feel like the interesting part is that when you are just young and naive, you have no concept of what true and not true actually. Yeah, you just take it as 100% gospel. And then you find yourself later in life doing those things, and you're like, this is asinine. Like, why am I not turning the heat on in my truck for the first 16 minutes I'm in the vehicle because my dad told me to in 1994? Like, what am I doing right now?

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Well, that's how I but like that's how I am with the thermostat. Anytime a door is open, I'm turning that thing off. I'm like, uh, heat's gonna get out, it's gonna kick on, cold air's coming in. Like I find myself now doing those things.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

I still patrol my house. So my my dad did this hilarious thing, is he had a mag light when we were growing up. His dad was a cop. So a mag light was like a like the elite flashlight. It might if this was pre-LEV days. Yeah. And it was like a your 14-inch black had like three triple their double D batteries and it's a it's a f weapon. Like, right? We all had them, yeah. But he wouldn't turn on the lights in the house after the sun went down, and he would walk around with this, and then he got a we got him a headlamp one year for Christmas. Yeah. Right? But so you you'd be just like playing a video game or like chilling in your room or something, and he would just come beam you in the face with this mag light, be like, you kids doing, right? And like just and then go leave us. So like he would having the lights off after dark, like when they're off, you don't turn it back on, right? Now that I'm a like homeowner and dad and all these things, I literally find myself every night bitching that every light in my house is on. Like, there's not a single night of my life where I don't patrol my entire house top to bottom, literally just to turn off every single night mask.

Thermostat Wars And Car-Heat Superstitions

SPEAKER_02 10:53

So that that's that's a great question, then. How do you feel about leaving Christmas trees on overnight? It's not the bills for me. Yeah. But not about the bill, but like the that's with that same mindset though, of like leaving like a Christmas tree on. Because I hate when the Christmas tree's on, not from the bill, but just because there's lights on in the house. Yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Yeah. I like when it's on. I mean, it doesn't make that much of a difference with your bill just because they're like little LED bulbs. But I like if I like get up in the middle of the night, you've got to get a glass of water.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

It's nice. It is nice. It's like an eternal feeling though that there's a light on in me and I just have to need to come up with it.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

I'm with I'm with Joe on this one. I'm turning it off. Uh but I'm but I'm also just like so sensitive to sleep because it's just so lacking in my life that like that light is like crack, door cracks, a dog comes in. Any lights I can't sleep. Beacon. I can't sleep with lights on. No, no lights. No lights in the room at all. But the uh it's uh I was like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02 11:45

You fall asleep with lights on, huh?

SPEAKER_03 11:47

I fall asleep with the TV on. See, I actually what's funny is I prefer like pitch black darkness. Like whenever I was in college, I was like, I love that. Used to. I know, but Kristen likes like the lights on, so she's always like, well, let's just keep one dimly lit or keep like the TV on. And I noticed my sleep is isn't as good, but you know what I'll throw on? Yeah, I did. I started throwing on an eye mask. Yeah, let's go. The problem with the eye mask, though, I don't well, you sleep with an eye mask, don't you? Sometimes you don't like like when I don't have the eye mask on, the sun starts to come up, you get that circadian, like, okay, I'm naturally waking up with the eye mask on. I feel like it keeps me in like a deep sleep. My alarm goes off, and I'm like, oh, I just feel like rattled now.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

So the key to that, you need to get an alarm that has a wake window that's actually so contracted breathing if you wear a ring. Look up. That way it'll wake you up in like a 15 to 20 minute window seeing f notices you're restless. Uh yeah. So you're not like at the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

That's actually not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

One thing you know, my wife has a hatch alarm clock. Oh, yeah, you told me about that. She snooses it a lot. Yeah. Love her. But like, I'll wake up. I I'm the lightest sleeper in the world. I'm super light sleeper. And I wake up to any noise. Like something fell in the shower, I'm up low. Like, what the what the hell is that?

SPEAKER_01 12:57

I sleep with earplugs.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

That thing lights up the whole room, starts playing birds or the ocean, or like someone's voice singing a kick You gotta get the damn alarm clocks off the nightstands.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

That's the kicker. Yeah. My wife hates it, but my phone is uh has been since the day we met, my phone's been across the room with the alarm on, and I have like a like a wake wind, like see, I try I can't do it.

Lights Off Patrol, Christmas Trees, And Sleep

SPEAKER_02 13:19

I feel like I'm gonna miss my alarm, even though I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

I just feel like try it on a day that's not imperative for you to be up. Okay on a Saturday. And then when you do it, you'll literally feel like the minute your feet hit the floor, you're like, oh, I understand now. I'm actually waking up. I'm not I mean, if you that's if you find yourself hitting snooze. What stops you from just laying back down after that that that demon in the back of your head, right? It's just calling you a bitch your whole life.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

That's what's keeping me back down. They need to bring back those alarm clocks. I used to have one in high school. Yeah, it was the GE ones that had a small wood panel on it, and it had the most aggressive sound when it was you don't want to wake up to a train horn. Oh, I mean like that one, you're not hitting snooze, you're not going back to sleep. It's like a bam bam, you would meet. If I didn't wake up to it, my mom would come storming in my room, like, shut the alarm off. I'm like, okay, okay, I'm up now.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

I feel like I feel like Sam's got the like, I'll sleep through like uh like like an blitzkrieg.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

That's my brother, man. I was I am a deep sleeper. One time Kristen and I, we were down in uh Georgia. We were like an Airbnb that was like it was like a campsite sort of thing, and there were like coyotes apparently like circling like the tent, like and Kristen's trying to shake me away. She's like, Sam, Sam, there's coyotes out there. She has like a video of it. It took me like 10 minutes to wake up. I'm like, it's fine, just let them be. She's like, no, no, you need to know there's coyotes out here.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

I'm like, dude, I'm not putting you on my survival code. Come on. My God.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Dude, at my parents' house when I was younger, slept on the second floor. We had a basement. One night, it was just my dad and I home. My dad sleeps like a he just sleeps through everything when he's really out. I heard a noise in our basement from the third floor, the second floor, I mean, and I'm like, I cleared cleared the house. I go down to the basement. I cleared the basement. But like somehow the TV got kicked on in the middle of the night. Yeah. And it was, the volume was only on like 10. I'm like, how did I hear that? You know, you just awareness, you just that's why I turned the lights out.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yeah. It's not because of the bill, it's because I people keep seeing my house. See that I'm not in that room. Yeah. And I have to deal with them breaking in, shooting them, and then I'm gonna be, you know, dealing with that. I don't like that. That's a whole nother thing we want to deal with. I'm gonna turn my Christmas tree off, so I don't have to shoot some more. I'm like, okay, maybe I am. Why do you turn the tree off? I don't want to shoot somebody today. Hypothetically, you two. So speaking of shooting, I think one of the most insane things going on right now in the world is the Winter Olympics, and they've got some of these like wild ass sports where you're you're skiing up a mountain backwards with like one ski on a gun on your back and like whatever. Do you guys think that there's a world where when you see some of these obscure sports in the Olympics, that you could actually perform or medal in them? Because some of them are out there. Some of them you're like, one, how the you get into that, right? And two, I could see myself potentially being up there.

Masks, Alarms, And Waking Up Smarter

SPEAKER_02 16:18

How do you get into the winter Olympics in general? Like that's a great point. Like some of these events they have, I was telling Sam, I forget the name of the one, but like they're skiing and then shooting with rifles and skiing. That's just the most made-up shit ever. I don't think I could meddle in any of it. I think like I will say they're like the top 1% of athletes. But like they train their whole lives for that. It's like wrestlers, it's the same thing I think with the Olympics. I don't think I could have, but I also don't watch the Olympics Olympics.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Not every one of those sports are training their whole lives. I just can't get into the Winter Olympics.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Especially the Winter Olympics, too. Those events are so obscure. I feel like if you're like an Olympic medalist, you have to have a combination not only of like the dedication to train for like an exorbitant amount of time, but you have to genetically be like a specimen. Like I remember even like Michael Phelps, they were like, the way his body's built and the size of his feet and this and that. Like you just need so much on a global scale to be the best.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

You gotta pull up some of the events. But the Winter Olympics has some events that have not like the men's curling team did not start curling as youths. Like there's not a shot youths, period. Right? So you've got all kinds of like like just wild, wild shit happening, right? Like that might be the only one curling. I don't know. No, uh okay. So you've got um, did you see the downhill snowboard racer? He's 44, he's an absolute does all those crazy ass flips and stuff. No, no, no, no. That's just downhill snowboarding. I mean, you're like out the shoot and you're no jumping, no speed, nothing. You're just you have to be a good snowboarder. But like you look at that and then you look at like Sean White, yeah, and you're like two different levels of athlete. I'm not there's not a world where I think I could be like one like a like a speed skater or like on the hockey team, right? But there's some like you give me a good three years of practicing curling like every day. Wow. I'm making that before I think I am. What's the point of the skeleton? Don't they just lay there? The skeleton is death. What is they just like aren't there girls? It's the face forward luge with no brakes. You steer with your shoulder. And it's just the memes? No, I haven't. Oh, they should have girls with like well-developed behinds. Oh wow. And then dudes just like, oh, in the memes.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

I just don't get like I think I could not do that, and I'm sure it is very difficult. But how did some of these events become Olympic sports? That's what I'm curious about. I guess covered in snow. Between that and like some of them, I'm just I just I can't get into it. I just can't watch it.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

I love it. The one that freaks me out is the ski jumping. There was a movie a few years ago called Eddie the Eagle about this guy that is based on the true story got into ski jumping. That one's just straight up terrifying. A man like broke so many bones in his body just over and over again. Like I don't know how you think of that one.

Light Sleepers, Security Fears, And Coyotes

SPEAKER_01 19:16

That's one of those events where it's like your athleticism is a byproduct of the sport. Like, you don't like you don't have to be able to like run fast or like throw a ball or catch or anything. Like they're just really good at that event. Yeah. Right? Which is you're right. There's conditioning, there's I might be like these guys are top tier, but there's some stuff where you're you gotta give them like, you know, there he could. There's there's a there's a pretty funny internet meme going around right now that's like you look at like world-class Summer Olympic athletes and they're like 21 years old, trade their entire lives dedicated to just being the fastest, you know, 100-meter sprinter to ever exist, and that's their existence as a human, and then you have a 42-year-old accountant that's in the winter Olympics winning winning a gold medal. And it's just like, yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

The only thing I was interested in is hockey. Jeff was telling me about hockey sick. First time since 2014 back. I think it's the craziest thing, unlike any other sport, they shut down their season mid-season, all the athletes go and play in the Olympics, and they come right back. I think it's nuts just considering what if someone gets hurt. Like what if it was their team season, but I it's country over the pro team, it's nuts.

Winter Olympics: Could We Medal?

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Exactly. You gotta think the competition level for that sport, they do it in basketball. Like they've always done it in basketball. Yeah. The competition for that sport is the best in the NHL. And I I was watching that dude that draws on Instagram, he'd draw like sports stats. You ever seen that guy? Yeah. Dude, so good. He did one on college or on Olympics. The Winter Olympic, oh it's absolutely insane. But the top five nations in the in the Olympic hockey um have 100% NHL rosters. So, you know, like the I think it's like what, Sweden, the US, um Canada, obviously. Um I don't think Russia's in Russia's not allowed in the Olympics. Oh, are they really not? No. Um because they're not a part of the UN anymore, I think. Uh like that. Uh but whatever it is, um you're not gonna get the competition at that level without the NHL guys. So that's why I also think that makes it amazing, is you get like rivals from the NHL that become teammates and go out there, and there's not like you can't do this with football, which is which is cool. But I I think it's awesome to see in hockey and basketball that you can come put the highest level players and then they can go out and perform at high level. Yeah. I always love the basketball.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

I don't like I don't like the NBA anymore, but I do I enjoy watching Olympic basketball. I will just because it's so much more competitive, I think.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

What the M the NBA needs another Kobe Bryant. Or like like I'm not knocking we're not gonna get into the LeBron Michael debate because that's different. But like LeBron's just not as intense as some of the the previous guys when it comes. comes to that, you can just tell he doesn't want to win as bad in the Olympics as like Kobe did. Kobe's out there. You see some bad practice footage. That mother is MF in people. But was he Michael was doing the same shit? So was Magic. So was Larry. That's just like kind of gone. You I the dunk contest was this weekend, Joe. I you saw a week that dunk contest was terrible. That used to have the Kobe's and the LeBron's and the Michaels.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

Yeah I just think it's wild considering that basketball's just falling off. LeBron has more gold medals, but that's besides the point. Kobe LeBron has three, Kobe has two, but it's a team sport. It's not individuals. Anyway I'm just throwing it out there for you.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

You had to Google it before you said it.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Exactly. I was verifying the statistic which which was correct.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Anyways look at their records of the Olympus.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

I don't I don't watch that much of the Olympic baskets. Maybe we should see anyway. Kobe was ruthless though I have a I I love that clip of him coming out um when he checked that guy pops all this dude yeah they were all there's like interviews because uh what it wasn't the dream team it was like the new dream team I've did a documentary on Netflix about it. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah and they were like every Dwayne Wade, LeBron, Chris Bosch they were all like Kobe came in the locker room he's like I'm running through that mother chest play. They're like it's your teammate no you're not came out and went right through his chest. I will agree with you. That's the shit we need in the Olympics. That is it is like we need to instead of playing not to get hurt. Yeah instead of wars let's just take it out with violence on the court.

Curling Dreams And Skeleton Nightmares

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Yes like in a guy now we're talking so though yeah the I do I think the Winter Olympics are a ton of fun. It's like a background thing. Yeah also I don't get into Summer Olympics. Like I don't Oh really I get I I I I do and I don't like I love I like swimming. I think swimming's fun to watch in the Summer Olympics I think pool. I think the some of the track stuff this other track stuff's boring as hell. See I like the I like track I like watching it. I like the sprinting distance and shit doesn't do it. Long distances same with the long distance though like I've I utmost respect for the sport. I think the sport's amazing I just don't like watching it.

SPEAKER_03 24:08

Like the hundred meters intense hundred meters amazing yeah those those are like top tier athletes yeah I definitely like the Summer Olympics more if you have like like archery uh obviously like the wrestling they're shooting guns in the Winter Olympics. Yeah but it's not but the wrestling's fine the wrestling wrestling's wild like you get to watch dudes just yeah I don't like watching wrestling.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Really? Really? Even the Olympic wrestling? Nah could you like MMA? No. What what actually I knew I know you don't you don't like two men agreeing they're gonna beat the shit out of each other for a certain amount of time I mean I don't dislike it I don't like I don't think it's like a sport I think you should get more into it.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

I don't like go out of my way for it. We gotta start him off on on street beef so you grew up dude like you can't I I Kimbo put street beef on this this is winged he started off on street beefs he's like he's getting into like actual MMA now he's being actual MMA uh fighter yeah no I'm not into this oh come on Wing C wing C man come on yeah no not for Wing C 14056 I'm not knocking it it's just not like I just like team sports this is the most not an individual sports guy look at him go uh something about something about the UFC just gets me going I think it's so much fun to watch I I saw an AI video of Connor McGregor beating Kabib and I was like oh man that's in another universe imagine Connor was entertaining to watch I mean I was into I'm but uh the whole scene and stuff it's it's a lot there's so many fights it's a lot of people to keep up with are you gonna watch the White House fight?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

I don't even know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Yeah who's fighting that they haven't announced it I don't think they're fighting at the White House? Yeah they're putting on a big gate at the White House for the anniversary of the White House or something I don't know what it is. Interesting. And for its birthday what birthday is it for the U.S. Um 250 or something? I don't know I'm the winner has to fight Trump in the Oval Office. I don't think uh building out a big octagon in front of the White House on the one lawn.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

I like boxing probably more than MMA but I'm just practicing a little bit older.

Hockey With NHL Stars And Olympic Intensity

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Boxing to me is the industry of boxing is the biggest problem. Yeah. Like the good fighters just don't fight the good fighters enough. There's not as many characters either no I think MMA gives them more of a platform to be entertaining. I think it's promoted very well.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

I think the UFC has that down pat but they're getting out of hand with the sports spiraling off of that like they have like the slap off thing that like Dane White was so big on.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Internationally that thing is you have to think I watched an interview on why that is so good and perform so well. Because you can turn on a TV and I've done this before you can have something in a different language and you can watch it without sound. Yeah. You can that's why the UFC mixed martial arts boxing that all is it's international. Anyone can turn it on without sound and watch people fighting and see who the winner is. It's nuts and like the slapping makes so much sense.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

Trevor Burrus They've got another one now where it's like these two dudes that just look like NFL linemen you just charge at each other. Oh that's disgusting I think that's a it's a that's a rugby thing.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yeah yeah and there's no path when they collide they're just getting after it's disgusting that needs to be an Olympic sport. I'm it might be soon. I mean they're putting flag football in the Olympics oh they are yeah you didn't know that so are are people from the NFL going to compete? A couple of them I think like Tyree Kill was talking about it and so yeah they it's a it's a big point of contention because there's no people that dedicate their lives to flag football don't play in the NFL and if they just give seats on the team to the NFL athletes and there's a big argument of like there's this quarterback I'll show you the clip after saying why he should be the quarterback for the Olympic team over like Patrick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Okay.

Basketball Nostalgia And Competitive Fire

SPEAKER_01 27:48

It's like Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL he's like flag football though and I'm really good that's kind of it's all changing and it's like it's wild to see they're trying to evolve the sports and get more inclusive and like you know allow things to happen and whatnot. And I'm not not against that at all. I do think like some of like the traditional sports need to be upheld right or you would hate to see like you know you would hate to see like Olympic hockey turn into the NFL Pro Bowl right yeah that which which like you can see on the horizon. Now hockey players are savages so they'll probably never like want that. Like they go and play in like the all-star game and kill each other. So I'm not too concerned there. But it like those changes can constantly happen in like um sports media when it comes to like those grand stages. Um but it's odd so uh we'd be interested to know like what's your guys' favorite winter Olympic sport um personally for me I love curling. I've loved curling since the minute I first saw it back in college. I think it is so interesting. And it's also because it's one of those things you feel like you can do it's like golf. Yeah you look at golf and you respect and love watching golf pros because you could do it you hit one shot that's beautiful in golf and you're like that's the same feeling Scotty Scheffler gets on a Sunday right at Pebble Beach is the same feeling I get when I see when I get a birdie on the literal local municipal court period. Where will we curl at? There's like there's so they they start a curling link in Pittsburgh they keep inviting me to it I just some 250. What?

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Yeah I never sits down and like if this podcast gets 10,000 likes we will force John to go do curl and we'll film a behind the scenes video for the bunk yeah hell yeah well we'll just do it regardless.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

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SPEAKER_02 31:32

Joe wanted Joe wanted to talk about it. So I this all started I will say from we did a video on Unscrewed and we had to eat a lot of happy meals. A lot and I think we all off camera were like these happy meals were very disappointing. Very toys were half sized all the same toy the meals were super small the amount of fries were super tiny. The ambience around it was just it just did change when I was a kid and had a happy meal was incredible of your year.

Combat Sports, Spectacle, And Virality

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Yeah like we see we got them seldomly like we never ate fast food like growing up Italian household right there's always a piece of meat in a carb that's like in a pot somewhere between the family like you're not getting happy out of it. Right? Um you're four years old you're eating like pot roast but uh so when we would get a happy meal it was you know we were stoked. I remember beanie babies were big when we were kids like that's what you want you're getting the beanie baby.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Yeah right and then so I I thought it would be fun if if you guys would blind rank five McDonald's items and then we'll talk about how they've changed. S tier? Uh no blind ranking one to five. Without knowing what's coming next? Yes without knowing what's coming next. One is going to be the best five is going to be the worst and then we'll talk about how they've changed over the years. Okay. Okay. Alright up first McDonald's items that have changed the happy meal I'll give that a it's a solid three so are we ranking them based on like our joy around that thing?

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Yeah around yeah or like what we think's changed the most or the item in general.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

Yeah I'll give it a three solid middle I remember being a kid and it was like before like iPads or phones or anything so it was a big deal to get the toy it was like holy shit I have a McDonald's toy this was like it was cool. I feel like they're probably not as cool anymore.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

I agree I agree I'm I'm going three as well middle of the pack I know that there's two things that I I just think are deplorable from McDonald's that I'm gonna get pushback on.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Up next I think they're coming.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

We have the McFlurry oh damn it if you're fortunate enough to get one of these to be honest I was never a huge fan of it I'd say like a number four I like I feel like if I'm gonna go to McDonald's I just want something savory I'm not looking to looking to also throw an ice cream down my neck too. It's coming up on St.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Patrick's Day which is the only time of the year it's appropriate to eat a McFlurry Shake man what do you mean that's the same well aren't they the same thing? No Shamrock shake's a milkshake the McFlurry I thought they made the Shamrock McFlurry whatever. I've never had a McSheen though I'm gonna put it at four I would put it at five but I know one thing that's coming that I think is just awful but I think I think I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

We might agree on this up next we have the chicken McNuggets uh number number five What I don't what no I don't like Nuggets I don't like nuggets. I was never a nugget kid growing up I feel like chicken breasts? No like I want like a tender or something. I was honestly never like I wasn't a super picky eater as a kid but like the nuggets I feel like like don't get me wrong there's food now that's 100% genetically engineered that I'll gladly eat and say this tastes delicious with a smile on my face but even as a child I feel like my palate was like something isn't right. Man is a voluntary hot dog eater nuggets in a five that is despicable. I remember watching a video on the the nuggets being made they got the the bag of the pink pureed meat and they just squirt it out and like it's it's like I knew as a kid too. I just I was never a fan of their nuggets really I'm disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Two for me because I there's one thing that two I think that's appropriate. Two it's a it'd be but it's if what I would have it one doesn't come up it would be my wife.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Then we have up next the famous and classic Big Mac.

SPEAKER_03 35:25

Five they're awful I think they're uh Big Mac is so disgusting I don't need extra bread you got let it get out of your garbage out of here it's disgusting you have a big old bowl of lead paint for breakfast what is going on you're over here telling me that the the literal the McNugget is your five and you're trying to argue that that as that loaf of bread as a Pittsburgh with that average ass sauce on it what as a Pittsburgh native you should appreciate the Big Mac because the Big Mac was invented in Pittsburgh stolen stolen from Eaton Park your loyalty taken to McDonald's that's the super burger the big boy the super burger whatever you choose to call it and that's a phenomenal sandwich. We'll put that at number one Joe on whole way off that one that is Big Mac number one the Big Mac sauce. And last but not least get out of here yeah that's correct it's good completely false you get three buns you get two patties who wants that I do three buns that's a regal sandwich right there. Oh yeah three buns who assimilates the word regal to their diet I just did and I I wholeheartedly agree what other items ingest that you c consider regal?

SPEAKER_01 36:41

I off the top of my head I there's one sandwich that needs that extra layer of bread one and it's not a big what is it?

SPEAKER_03 36:49

You don't even know it can regal over here and what's the extra bread club it's the only time a club only a club yeah a lot of people will put an extra layer of bread toasted I kinda I I kinda like the statement the Big Mac makes like in in today's day and age where it's like well can I get a can I get a cheeseburger with no bun I'm on the keto diet can you wrap it in lettuce for me? No put three buns on it and send it my way that's what I would like sir.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Give me more cancer please give me the sugar I want more of those buns that time does not hover they do not disintegrate.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

Just sit there. Give me the sugar bread that Europe classifies as a pastry and want three of them in my stomach in the next five minutes that'd be lovely things.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Then the patty is so small. No patty could be bigger double cheeseburger all day over the Big Mac 100% hands down well and then that leads us to our last but not least French fries.

Curling Love And Audience Challenge

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Number one I don't know how you put anything above them I'm gl I'm actually so happy that the two slots left open because I'll put it at two on like a like a taste and like flavor wise I'd want to put it at number one but the reason it'll be number two Because you want to argue. No there's a Cat Williams sketch where he's talking about like how McDonald's like does all this weird shit with their fries. It's like he's like he's like they spray this stuff and genetically engineer the potatoes so there's no fry. Yeah and his quote that sticks in my head every time he's like when's the last time you've got their fries and not had the last one like the little gnarled up one all the way at the bottom anytime I get the fries there's never a half eaten box of fries. I will clear it out to the bottom oh my god man he he was right these are the science lab potatoes but they are tasty they're tasty back in the day they were made in beef tallow.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Yeah probably amazing exquisite I don't know if you guys were alive if you could get the the statistics on screen of when they switched from beef tallow to whatever cancer causing agent they give us now but I think I was alive for it my goodness they were good. Yeah I can imagine salt I'm so I'm an avid proponent of like properly salting your foods and it probably comes from my joy for the for the French fry. Well and they'll throw a little sugar on correctly French fries changed 1990 I had a couple years in there.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

What yeah I want to know are there like beef tallow reserves somewhere because like I feel like in the past five years I've heard about so many of the benefits of it but you go to the grocery store and there will be like like a small section with like two things of beef tallow and it's like$38 on and like well here's a beef tallow hack for you.

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McDonald’s Then And Now

SPEAKER_01 39:25

So that smoker I gave you if you get a big chunk of like you tried smoking a brisket yet? Not a brisket give yourself give yourself a weekend get into try to smoke a brisket. Anything beef wise that has a like it's a subcutaneous fat, like a large volume of it that you have to cook low and slow. Yeah. When that fat's rendering out that's what the tallow is so you put it on the second shelf and with a tray underneath it and let it drip down in and also take your fat trimmings fat can put those in your in your tray and then those will render out slowly it has to be slowly you can't like fry it or it burns. Yeah. You slowly render that out then you can um you can you can drain that out um filter out all the like the gunk and stuff that comes with it and you'll have yourself a a beautifully delicious shelf stable beef tallow smoked beef tallow that you can use in your cooking. Now I will say this if you're if you've cooked with beef that's like super fatty you ever cook like a I don't know 75 25 like ground in like a burger you know that smell that so when you cook a beef tallow that smell is coming all that smell so you get like a yeah it's beef it's beef crease. Okay more or less um but that's how you can get some tallow. It's actually in and for all of you barbecuers at home highly suggest using that method because you can render that out and then you put that fat back onto your brisket or your beef rib or whatever beef thing you're smoking and when you wrap it penetrates back in. Delicious. Actually sounds pretty wagu beef tallow has a bit has a pretty big uh pretty big cult following right now but I'm still despicably disappointed in your choice of the Big Mac being you're number one. That's a f atrocity of cheeseburger it's the number one it's number one on the menu for a reason.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

It's number one tricks number number one on the menu number one in our hearts right Joe get the f get your ass.

SPEAKER_01 41:06

I don't like Big Macs. Never never liked them never been a Big Never been a Big Mac only Big Mac I've had as an adult was that one we put in a blender and liquefied that I have to wow that was it yeah that's like I will get a double cheeseburger all day you like piss drunk back in early 20s Sam's we went to McDonald's and got all those happy meals and Sam was like man 50 happy meals isn't enough let me get three Grinch meals with extra Big Mac sauce. They had socks oh there's nothing better than the Big Mac sauce to dip your fries in no bullshit all day long Wendy's frosty and their fries over McDonald's fries and 100% in the comments let us know what you think I guarantee you're losing this one.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Guarantee that the Wendy's fries it being the fries and a Wendy's frosty is an elite comp elite oh it's still nice yeah it's still nice below the Big Mac thought I remember that I don't think they do it anymore. They used to sell the Big Mac sauce a little condiment.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

We'll see what they have to think I mean they've changed so much over the years McDonald's their nuggets used to be like a dark meat blend. Now it's a hundred percent white meat chicken.

Blind Ranking: Happy Meals To McFlurries

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Yeah well they actually used to be way worse for you dark meat which is why they tasted better. There's no dark meat blend it's pretty sure the size of the quarter pounder isn't actually a quarter pound anymore.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Oh which is like a big thing they added more sauce meltier cheese to the Big Max.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Yep I do you see it on there I remember a few years ago they had signs everywhere where they were like Congratulations guys we're using a hundred percent real beef from now on what the hell were you guys using for hey hold on a minute right what the hell are we eating I mean they've changed a lot their menu do they still they got rid of the snack wraps don't they?

SPEAKER_01 42:53

They brought it back because the economy's tanking they they did bring back the snack wraps those snack wraps used to bang yeah I love those snack wraps this is like what holds this is the the reason America's fat as shit is like it's so much easier to get a cheap meal from fast food that's just you're literally just eating terrible things for you. And instead of like cooking that shit at home it sucks. It makes it so hard because it's it's delicious. I want a snack wrap right now that you mentioned it.

SPEAKER_03 43:19

It's weird too regionally depending on where you're at it's more or less expensive. When I was in the South all fast food was at least like a every menu item was like a few dollars cheaper than this up north. Then you go to New York or something and that's a few dollars more than it is here.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

What do you pokes me at? I argue with him all the time about I hate the filet fish. Joe and Sam Sam tells me how great the filet fish is there's I wouldn't put it in great I mean it's just a mediocre average it's changed from what it used to be. What's way smaller now they made it smaller. Is it yes smaller is it you do you remember those Happy Meal patties?

SPEAKER_01 43:52

They weren't even a patty just a full size patty. I I remember just all bread.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

Yeah started taking the bread Off of them. Like it was so bad.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Yeah, you're not running. We had to eat a lot of them that day, though. They used to give you a whole-size small fry, you get a Coke. There was no milk. I think the milk's a weird addition. What kind of kid is going to have a cheeseburger and some milk? That's just, I don't think your stomach wants that. A lot of kids.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

A lot of kids might, yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you don't want to give them a pop. I mean, I guess the pop, you don't know that. You don't realize that part. You don't want to give them pop.

Nuggets, Big Macs, And Fry Science

SPEAKER_03 44:24

I feel like if it was like something like citrusy, like it was like a high C or like maybe it's like maybe they have like a healthy juice. If it was apple juice even, I would understand that. Okay. Juice, apple juice, I guess I guess. The dairy, though. I just couldn't imagine mixing dairy and uh Well, you don't care what the taste is a kid. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

You're just washing it down. You don't even care. I mean the parents don't. Me being a parent, I'm like, I don't want my kids drinking Diet Coke or high C.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

What about the frightening apples they have? The apple slice. You cut it all brown? You cut a real apple. You've got about 30 seconds to get some citrus on it before it starts browning. These ones are in a bag for like 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

We left them out for the weekend. I came back and the apple slices were still good. I'm thinking, what is in these? Don't put that inside you.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

It's almost like I'd rather just have the unhealthy option. They're like, you want something healthy? We'll get the boys to cook something up for you. Here you go. Indefinite apples. Have them for as long as you want. Are you guys big dessert people at McDonald's? Ever. Absolutely not. Like you didn't have the apple pie ever? Except the free ice cream coat when you were a kid that's literally this tall.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

You ever could they used to get them way more nowadays? I feel like every machine at every McDonald's is always broken.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

I know, but it's a real thing. We used to my my dad used to like uh sometimes take Jeff and I to like get a milkshake if he was in a good mood, had nothing to do with us. He wanted one, he'd take us. And like I so I don't know about I don't have any memories really about the soft serve. Because we had a where we grew up, we had a Dairy Queen right next to we're getting ice cream with the Dairy Queen 100% of the time, right? Um But the uh but the milkshakes are just instant, instant poop in the pants. They were good though.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

They were good. My dad's the only person I know. He goes to like like a McDonald's or something. Could I get a couple of salt packets, please, and I'll get those little paper ones and like take the bun off, start dusting it. Like, come on, man, it doesn't, you know it doesn't need that. Just stop.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Really? Joe was telling me that when you guys ordered the 50 happy meals, yeah, that you asked for less salt. Did I? No. Yeah. Yeah, you did. I just like didn't even know that that was a thing.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

I didn't know they were right salt, you're right with the food. You're right. I was trying to be health conscious for you guys.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Yeah, except I asked for no condiments, you couldn't get that one on there. Yeah, no. So we ended up just like mouthing ketchup for hours.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

Dude, the condiments made so much worse. So much worse. The pickles, the salt from the pickles was was enough, and then you just had the mustard and the ketchup.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Yeah, I I didn't believe you guys till we got into the thick of it. I'm not gonna lie, when we were like four in, I'm like, we're gonna be just fine. But after like number five hit, I was like, this was just such a bad idea. But what's so scary, I went home, I felt terrible, and I was like, my palate's cooked. Like I think McDonald's might be done. And I have things in my life that like I'm overindulged in where it's like my palate won't accept it anymore. Captain Sliced Rum. Yeah, well, never go back. That's why I don't drink clear liquor. Uh yeah. A couple days later, though, I was like, I can go for a McDonald's cheeseburger right now. I got it. Oh you were a cockroach. You're insane, dude.

Beef Tallow, Snack Wraps, And Regional Prices

SPEAKER_02 47:31

You were not normal. You're insane. I will never eat there again. I don't have an appetite since doing that video. I remember the paint.

SPEAKER_03 47:38

I was delusional. I I was delusional too. I felt spacey. I think we over sodium.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Yeah, sodium was way too much. That's we did with the pizza too.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Yeah, the pizza. The pizza was bad. Pizza being cold today. I know that one. The pizza being cold made it worse. I think if it was warm, I still don't know if the finish. Yeah, we would have done. I mean, we were that cold pizza was just rock. That was a hell challenge. That was your best food challenge, I think. You almost cleared it. I thought. Well, I started scaling.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

I just wanted to break even and get it. I was at a loss. I ate the pizza, didn't get any money. Jeff and John money. John paid himself and he then ate Jeff. I didn't get anything out of it. You're pretty locked in. I thought you were thinking about it. 30-inch pizza on a video. Um what a L.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

So stupid.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

Um that moves us into our last segment. I thought it would be fun to do uh uh overrated, underrated. I have some topics pertaining to everything we've talked about today. Uh go through, you guys can establish whether they're overrated or underrated. How does that sound? Okay. Um first up, dad jeans.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

What are those? That's what my question was gonna be. You mean like the style of dad?

SPEAKER_01 48:51

What's a dad gene? On on men or women?

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Probably women. I don't think men. Like this look.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

You ever see this look? Yeah, you got super baggy jeans, belt. Looks just like him.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

I I'm gonna say I'm happy that's coming back. Yeah, that's that's you mean non-skinny jeans, basically. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, properly rated. Yeah, uh I I like the dad jeans. Properly rated is a part of that system. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say underrated because it's nice, like I feel like what's nice about these jeans, they're attainable. You get those jeans anywhere you want. You go to Walmart and get those jeans, you go to a nicer place, get those jeans, but it's like it's like fit, it's fitted but loose at the same exact time. I think it's really rated. Yeah. Uh overrated, underrated, calling your parents.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

I'm terrible to ask this one. Uh overrated. I never call my parents. Wow. Never. Sorry, mom. You're older than us. I I just hate talking on the phone. Yeah, okay. I avoid it at all costs.

Filet-O-Fish, Apples, And Ice Cream Machines

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Uh I guess I'll say it depends on the parent, too. Uh I guess I guess underrated. I I always do enjoy talking to my dad. He he's he's very funny. It was nice to catch up with him. I enjoy talking with my mom too, but uh she get a bit heated sometimes on the phone over just like day-to-day things at work. I'll be like, how was your day today? And she'll tell me in great detail. Yes. It's a lot. I don't call anyone, so like I'm just I don't do phone calls.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

I say hard at all. No, no, I said underrated. I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

You said it, but then you also back.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

I will I'm we have we have my parents over like once every other week, at least. Yeah. So like I'm I'm I like to fill up on conversation when we're in person. So I don't have like a distance issue. Uh up next, the winter Olympics. Underrated. I think more people need to get into it. Like, you gotta give it a shot, Joe. There's some intense shit. If you see, do you see the final of the men's speed skating? We've got this American phenom kid. No, dude, just came through, torched. I think it was it was Norway or Sweden, has like the reigning Olympic champion, and like it's been them for like ever. Yeah. Knocked them off. I'm gonna let's go.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

I can't. They're skating on razor blades. I'll try to look more into it. Yeah, I respect everything they do, but I gotta be honest, I'm gonna go uh overrated just because it's it's something whatever I see it on, it's like, oh, that's kind of cool, but then I'll just go about my day.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

Like, I'm not actively like I'm like, So I think for me too, X games is what MMA is for you guys. Like it was brand new back when I was a kid. That's right. And like be a lot of those sports translate to to the Winter Olympics. Like Sean White was like a household name. Yeah, I remember that. What do you think, Paul? Downtime overrated, underrated?

SPEAKER_03 51:43

Oh, I said underrated? Yeah. Uh the Summer Olympics. Underrated. The Summer Olympics, those are pretty cool. I feel like I would say properly rated.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

I'd say properly rated. I think they're not underrated. They're the Summer Olympics are good. I I think, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

I can get locked in on more of those events. Um hot chocolate. Off the wintertime, hot chocolate. Overrated. Yeah, overrated. I not even even as a kid. I never had a hot chocolate as a kid that wasn't way too hot. It's burn your mouth.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

Yeah, I am very, very anti-consuming gratuitous amounts of calories and liquid with no benefit. Right? Like, like hot protein chocolate, maybe we're talking. At least you're getting something out of it instead of just eating an immense amount of sugar in a warm drink. Like, no, I can't get behind that. Way overrated. Okay. What about coffee? Overrated, underrated, underrated.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Everyone needs to be drinking more coffee. I agree with that. Snow days as an adult. Underrated.

Overindulgence Aftermath And Food Challenges

SPEAKER_03 52:46

They don't even exist. What do you mean? Yes, they do. We had one a couple uh weeks ago. Yeah, you're lucky. I gave it to you. Who worked the whole day? We all have work from home tasks, but there's something nice. I think it's not even the thing is, it's not even about the day off of work or anything like that. It's just about your normal routine being disrupted by a force that's completely out of your control and it's as exciting. You know what I mean? It's like when the power goes out.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

Dude, I have it way overrated. I hated everything. Come on, man. Shoveling my driveway five times. I had my whole family and the kids screaming, can't get anything focused.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

You guys ever see I got served in that day a lot of memes on TikTok of um you ever see people talk about how guys want to die? Like you just want to die in peace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say I related to that so much with that. I'm like, if I have to go out, just in the snow. Yeah. No, but I get it. A nice place to bleed out. Thank you. That's it. I was missing that word, bleeding out in the snow. Um ice fishing. You guys ever done ice fishing? Never never went. Nope.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

So I can't really give it away. Yeah, I can't rate it. I think they're overrated, to be honest. Like, I don't want to sit and freeze my. Now, there is some like elite. You haven't done ice fishing properly. Ice fishing, like, you know, tents in the tents. You gotta get some tents, you get a little heater going. It's fine. I see them in Minnesota, see them up there getting after it.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

I could never really done it, though. I couldn't see myself being super into it because my favorite fishing to do is like the kind of where you just sit back in your chair, you relax, and go thug it. Yeah, but you have that uneasy feel. It's just match. Yeah. It's extreme, that's what it is. Yeah, but you have that uneasy feeling that the ice is gonna give in. Like you said, you gotta build a tent, a fire, you gotta get yourself all situated. Jeff and I were talking about iconic. You just want to sit on a riverbank, throw a line in, and then smoke weed and drink beer.

Overrated Or Underrated Lightning Round

SPEAKER_01 54:29

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you can't do that on the ice cream. Our fisherman, on the other hand, I want to be summer fish. It's nice. You could drop a line and you could just sit there. Yeah, I'm not into that at all. I'm gonna throw a thousand lures, a thousand different flies, and I'm gonna snag a thousand my ass off. I'm sore palm duck fishing. Fly fishing or bass fishing. Like, that's not for me. I think they both have their spot. Nope. I don't do chill fishing. I'm power fishing 100%. Oh, it's annoying as shit the fish. No, catch a release, 100% of the time. You face it? I just 100%? 100% of the time. I'm literally fishing to trick that fish to bite, and then I'm giving it right back to nature. You never have cooked your fish. You haven't cooked, done it. It doesn't bring me dude. The amount of work to like fillet a trout and then eat that shit, no taste of the taste of them. I'll just go buy it. It's not the same thing. It's not the same. You cook it in the fire. That's the thing. What do you mean? I haven't fished enough. I fished a ton. I fished probably a thousand times more.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

I'm telling you, at a certain point, you're like, I don't want to cook these things. Well, not every time, but once in a while you're on a good fishing trip, you know, you get a don't want it all. Let that thing let that thing go live its life. You're not starving? I thought you don't know how hungry I am when I go fishing. Yeah, I starve myself before fishing.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Yeah. You know that. Yeah, then you're out there, you're you're you're you're catching uh undersized. Ever eat fish straw? You never taking a bite out of the fish? Yeah, I've done all this deplorable shit. I've I've beer bonged entire fish. Like I'm we're not you're talking to right now.

SPEAKER_03 56:04

Fishing's like the only sport like that, too. Imagine like hunting, but with like rubber bullets appearance.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Well, I don't want to actually kill them. The sport of fishing is is literally just to trick the fish. You ever gone bow fishing? No, but I would. I have. I would. It's interesting. What'd you do it for? Like with fish. Just to try. I mean, like was it was it Asian carp? Uh no, we were younger, we had like a little stream. Are you guys ever seen Asian carp? No. They're the ones that shoot out of the water? See, I definitely didn't do it in the right application.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

Yeah, but like shooting off the back of the boat. We're just shooting arrows in water and they're kind of bouncing. Yeah. Okay, yeah. But it wasn't strong enough. Yeah, very much so. It was kind of didn't catch anything if that that helps, yeah. Yeah. Um last but not least, curling.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

Underrated. Curling is elite. Elite. I love that anyone can do it. I love that you don't need to be training your entire life. I'm all for more sports and competition throughout the populace. I'm all for it. I was gonna say overrated.

SPEAKER_03 57:01

It kind of reminds me of bowling. Like I feel like, and I like, I respect it, but I'm not like it doesn't matter. Yeah, you're just like an anti-competition person. No, no, I'm very like it, it just doesn't like I can't get sucked into a curling match. You just haven't paid enough attention.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

You ever go to the bar and play shuffleboard?

SPEAKER_03 57:18

Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

Yeah, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 57:21

But on ice, but that might even be it too, because if I'm ever at like a bar playing shuffleboard, it's like, oh, we all have a nice buzz on, we're having fun, but it's not like this is like high-tech. That's the same thing. You could do the same thing, curling. Yeah, but they've got to be more locked in though. It's the Olympics. They do.

SPEAKER_00 57:35

You don't when you play.

SPEAKER_03 57:36

Yeah, but it just doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

You can go have a couple of things. Well, what do you think about bowling? Are you into bowling? I feel like it's like the same thing. I don't think the there's no team dynamic in bowling like there is in curling, and you're not playing it directly against the opponent. That's why I think curling. You all have to be working. Yeah. Like you watch it, you throw, opponent throws. You throw, opponent throws, right? Yeah. It's way more entertaining. It's like a myth between bowling, shuffleboard. It's shuffleboard on ice on steroids. It's great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:04

I'm still gonna say overrated.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

Nah. Completely underrated.

SPEAKER_03 58:07

You like curling, Joe? It's elite. I like curling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

See, that's what I can't. I think curling is one of those sports that like I don't think it's cool and I can't watch it. But if you do it, I think that's sick. Yes. Like, I just can't get into it like myself. I just I watch it and I'm just kind of like, I'll get served some clips of people knocking off, you know, and everything crazy. That's sick. And then I just watch it regularly. When that doesn't happen, I'm just kind of like you get like a you get like a triple stack and they knock it out. Yeah, and they all start going nuts. Yeah, I could live for that, but every other moment in curling I just dislike. It's just like brush faster, come on!

SPEAKER_03 58:47

All right, those guys were fighting because the one guy was like the from Canada, he kept like finger push and I do it. He just saw you do it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

Canada, they're some assholes, man. They're curling team. Yeah, they did not bring any of that that stereotypical polite polite attitude. And miss the good old Canada.

Curling Debate Finale And Canada Shade

SPEAKER_01 59:03

Nah, they need there's they need they need a little bit of that. Yeah. They need a little bit of sure they're true colored. I thought that eight. Well, that's all I have for overrated, underrated. All right. I like that. All right, so let us know what you guys think. Did we rate them right? Did we not rate them right? I tend to think that I'm 100% correct in my ratings. Yes, you do. Um, and if there's anything that we miss, let us know uh in the show notes from this. We're about excuse me, let us know in the comments. Not the show notes, or for us. Um anything important for you guys, we'll have a link down in the show notes for you to check out on whatever platform you're watching on. Don't forget to subscribe, potentially share it with someone you love or hate. And if you want to watch us go into testing Sam's soup, make sure you're checking out the boat or bunker. Appreciate you guys. See you on the next episode.