Every Guy Thinks He Can Do These Jobs… They Can’t

In this episode, the guys debate and rank the professions men most commonly overestimate, from skilled trades like plumbing to high-pressure roles like air traffic control. Watch as they expose the gap between "looks easy" and reality using their "Overconfidence Tier List" to see which jobs the average guy truly has no chance of doing.

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Transcript

Hungry Man Snack Chaos

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Only in construction do people think they can do part of the job themselves. I'm not gonna walk in and be like, how about this? Doc. I'm gonna do the first three incisions, okay? And then you guys hop in for like the high-level work. What do you what do you think about that? So the boys and I were talking and the topic came up that there's a few things that I believe most men think that they are capable of handling, regardless of experience or knowledge or anything basically inputting into their life. So today we're gonna dive into a few of them, most of them focusing around getting gritty and dirty, uh, a little bit of the trades, a little bit of things that are tangential to the trades. But before we get into any of that, we have all of your favorite segment, Sam's snack of the day. Mr. Pula, it smells like uh smells like a Polish kitchen in here. What do you got for us? I just have one question for you. Are you hungry, man?

SPEAKER_03 1:00

You bust out of hungry man, I'm leaving the building. John. Now, this isn't just any hungry man. John, wait, wait. Wait. Cancel the show. Wait, John, come back here. He's left the building. He's walked, he's legitimately He'll be back though. He'll be back.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Now there's two of us. Joe, are you hungry, man? I'm hungry, man. What is a hungry man? I don't think I've ever had one.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Alright, let's let me just hear me out for a second. I've never got the No! John, wait! John, no! John, no! It's in there, it's already warm! No.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

There's no chance we are eating Hungry Man. The Sauceberry steak one is the best one. You know what we're gonna eat today? First forms cheddar protein sticks because I'm not eating that bullshit. I actually got these in order to taste them. Here we go, Joe.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Can you move? That's a friend of his book.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

You're you're you're you're losing it, my friend. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Hungry man? Do you understand? Do you understand? That's a treat. I get to feed myself once a blue moon when Kristen goes out of town because she hates the smell of them. She hates everything.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

I hate everything that just happened. It actually makes me want to stop doing the show. Oh my god. That letter ruined it for me, John. It's the hunger. Set me over the edge. Monday morning, first thing you think I want to f eat a pile of dog shit?

SPEAKER_03 2:31

John, the hungry man has sustained this country for. The hungry man is a is a f is a f stain on what America stands for. Out the hungry man, divorced dads everywhere would starve.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

No, I'm all for potato chips on a on a paper towel with shredded cheese in the microwave. That's the dad meal. I'm all for I'd rather eat Chef Boy RD than that dog show. Get that out of my dog.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

If you ever bring that in here again, we're gonna be having words.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Get the f out of here.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

What's the big deal with hunger? I don't know anything about them. It's just a microwave.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

It is a it is it is not food. Joe, it is food. It's not food.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

What's the hate? We ate spam last week. Could it get much worse than that?

SPEAKER_00 3:18

No, spam is made to last intentionally. Those will last because they're made with the things that shouldn't be consumed by humans.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

They're high in protein and sodium. Come on now, Joe. 21 grams of protein in that meal.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

We're over here trying to propagate a more positive, healthy life, and you keep. God, I'm gonna have to hijack that segment. No chance that's going to my body. Alright, so we got a brand new order of stuff from First Warmer. I'm pretty excited. So I'm hijacking this shit. And these are their cheddar protein sticks. 18 grams of protein in this sucker. Nothing. I'm more than willing to put it in my body. I'm not gonna lie. It tastes like cheddar.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Which is interesting because there's no cheese in it.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Well, I mean, like there's not like a chunks.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

I've had like chunks of cheese before. I'm not a big jalapeno guy.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

What's that?

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Not a big medium jalapeno.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

The jalapeno ones even better. No, no, they're they're definitely better. They were out of stock. So I went with the next best. There's a couple there's some cheese chunks in there. You can see that one. Is there on yours? Yeah. I haven't seen any. How dare you bring hungry? I'm I am I am I.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

What's the lore of hungry? I feel like there's a deeper lore. I ran the hungry man by Sarah. She thought it was a good idea, too.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Why would you run it by her?

SPEAKER_03 4:40

I don't know. I was like, I don't know. I don't know. We were talking about them on Friday.

unknown 4:48

Who?

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Sarah and I. We were talking about the hungry man's. I was so they are they just like frozen meals?

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Yeah. It's a TV dinner. And if you look at the history of what a TV dinner is supposed to be, yeah. That's not it, Joe.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

I'm just confused at where the hate's coming from. I I I get it's probably deplorable. I just said like I don't understand the hungry man like it's uh they had a moment.

SPEAKER_03 5:11

It had a moment for a while. What year? The 60s. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

So it's an old one. It's probably been further.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

What they were intended to do was when the microwave was invented for a full meal in front of you and your family. Yeah. All of it came in a tray. Over the years.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Let me guess someone bought them and then they I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

But over the years it's just turned into dog food on a tray. And it's keeping America sick, it's keeping America unhealthy, and it's keeping America thinking that they're getting value. But the reality is you're eating a bunch of stuff you shouldn't eat. But from time to time, chicken barn joke. From time to time, it's okay to have one. It's not okay. No, see, have higher standards for yourself. Get the out of here.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

Their packaging is kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

They're about to start this off. I'm just pissed now. They shouldn't exist.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Look at that! Why would you want to eat that? Oh, there's the selects, too. Those are a few dollars more. Get out of the selects. 34 grams of protein. Thanksgiving feast, right there. Cranberry sauce, turkey. Oh no, what's in that one?

SPEAKER_00 6:26

A scoop of this and that?

SPEAKER_03 6:29

Yeah. It's 40 grams of protein. Yeah, but you don't eat a hungry man for the nutritional value. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

So why would you eat it? It's fuel. Food is fuel. Don't put that shit in your body. It's why you're dying. It's why you feel like shit. It's why you're sluggish. It's for the sucks. It's for the I'm not even here to just promote first form.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

I'm just saying, you're better than that. I feel great. I'll tell you what, I bet I would have felt even better with a hungry man in my stomach.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Here's it. You can go, you can go outside, and you and Queeque can eat that shit out of a f ⁇ ing dog bowl.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Come on, hungry man himself showed up here. I smack that dude in the face.

Why Construction Gets Undervalued

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Oh no, you No, I just I'm done. I'm tapped, Joe. I don't even fing care about landscaping or plumbing or whatever the hell we're talking about today.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

We're gonna go through and rank jobs that people think are easy, but probably aren't. And we're gonna go through, I have a whole bunch of stuff on the docket, but we need to talk about first. You hire someone, what makes a job look easy when someone cu comes and does something for you, when they're doing their job in an efficient clip? What makes it look like across the board?

SPEAKER_00 7:33

The things construction in general is the only industry where people literally believe that they deserve itemized breakdowns of everything happening, that they can do part of the job themselves. Like I love my neighbors, they're phenomenal people, and I am so sorry if you're listening to this. But they got an itemized breakdown to put a swimming pool in their yard, and one of the thoughts that came out of one of them was to dig the hole themselves. Only in construction do people think that like that is like they're doctors. I'm not gonna walk in and be like, how about this, doc? I'm gonna do the first three incisions, okay? Then you guys show up. I'll buy all the scalpels and shit, save a couple bucks, okay? And then you guys hop in for like the high-level work. What do you what do you think about that? Only construction, and I feel terrible about it because it's it shouldn't be deserved. They make it look easy because they're fing experienced, they know exactly what to do, where to go, they've been doing it forever. Yeah, right? Your old man earned every dollar he's ever got in his life doing his job, and he's a fing expert at it, and so is yours, and they deserve to be treated that way, not nickel in dime over everything they put out there.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

I guess I would love for us three to get to the bottom of why are people underestimating certain jobs. I have some examples here. Construction, you named top of mind, mechanics, chefs, electricians, carpenters. There's way more in the skilled trade.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Lawn service is another huge one.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Lawn and garden, lawn services in general, landscaping. Everyone's a landscaper.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

It's the barrier to entry, is the whole reason people think that they can just do everything. Yeah, they can they can rip you on it.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Everything's so accessible nowadays. You can go buy everything to do all these. YouTube has everything on it.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Yeah, I feel like YouTube definitely is probably a large or a big culprit of that.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

I mean, people like us, we make content on building cool shit. It makes other people think they can do it. And I'm not gonna lie, that's the whole point. But to nickel and dime a professional, I think it's deplorable.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Yeah, like I think cooking's a great example. Like everybody could probably cook something, but you get like a great chef that knows what they're doing and how to use flavors. Biggest difference in the world. Biggest difference.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

I will say though, there definitely is a line though, because there's companies I could think of that are arguably predatory in the opposite way, like those those companies it's like we'll throw a shower in in one day, and they just like drastically overcharge people. Like I think as long as you have a good person that's doing whatever work, but there are to the other end of the spectrum, I feel like there are you know companies that overcharge people as well.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Maybe that's like the dynamic here. It's like the pendulum switch, it's like ones ruin it for the good ones, and the good ones are getting by the bad ones here, and so like people want to do their own work and the doctors want to dig a hole because potentially of other bad experiences from other people, right? And it just trickles down.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

No, it's just like the It's the assumption of what you're paying for and what you're getting, and that it's doable by any body, able-bodied person. Yeah, running an excavator is not easy by any means. No, but the fact is anybody can do it. They can rent one now again. Exactly. That's where that's where the discrepancy exists. Go to lawn care. Lawn care is an easy one to understand because I don't know about you guys, but every dollar I ever wanted to earn as a young man was cutting grass. Yeah, landscaping lawn care with. I built block walls, I cut like 20 yards as a kid with my old man, right? We hustled, made some money, and like that's how I learned how to work for a dollar. It was a matter of buying a tractor and excuse me, buying a lawnmower and starting, like knocking doors. The barrier entry was really low. You don't have to be massively intelligent in order to do it. Or you don't, excuse me, you you don't need a massive level of intelligence in order to cut grass. You really gotta know how to turn a mower on and walk.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Yeah, and to clarify, that's what you're saying though. Like you're saying buy a lawnmower, cut your own grass, uh, you know, if if you can. But like building the retaining walls, putting in French strains, doing all the things.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

And that shit gets complicated real fast. Really fast. But now I'm like, well, like mulching, for instance. But there's you could do it at the bare bones basic level yourself, right? And then all it eats up is your time. Or you could hire someone, cost you no time, just costs you money. And that's the whole trade-off with all of it. And like there's a my lawn care service does a five times better job than I do of cutting my own grass. So there's a point where you're paying for someone who's considerably more versed, better machines, better tools, better knowledge, all that to do something. But for some reason, we live in a world where a lot of people just can't accept the fact that people are better than them at things and that they should be paying them to be better than them.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

I could serve this guy on TikTok. He cuts his front lawn like it's a PGA green. It's unbelievable. That guy is so elite at cutting grass.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

I love that content, but I don't have the time to be that good at cutting grass.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Yeah, he's an elite grass cutter.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Amazing to see. And it's also, I think it's like my friends all find joy in doing their own lawn service. I don't. I find joy sitting here and yelling at Sam for dying hungry, man. That's surprising.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

See, I I don't know. There's certain jobs you do take joy in, though. Like my my grass, like I feel like that's like I get to go out and just like I feel like it's like an activity you get shut your brain off and just, you know, focus be out in nature.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

It's not that I think it's not something you can enjoy. It's just personal. You like it. Also, I have this like problem personally. If I have been doing it for a long time, yeah, and it became a job at any point, I kind of like don't want to do it anymore.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

Yeah, I've got certain things I get burnt.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

I hate working out. Like I fing hate it. Yeah, I do it every day, and I there's not a moment I'm doing it where I'm like, this is fun. If I'm working out with my buddies, even at that, I'm like, this is closer to mid than being absolutely awful. But never am I like, yay! I'm working out. It was a job for me for so long. Yeah. From 10 to 23, it was a job. And now I'm like, I still hate it. But that's the same thing with cutting grass. Yeah. I had to like hustle, do it right, you know, all that stuff. So I like it was always work. I do like sitting on a tractor and like driving around.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Yeah, that's that's nice.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

But then I look at the time trade-off and I was like, I'd probably rather at this point be like vibe coding a dashboard with Joe. So I guess here's a great question for the. Exactly properly with people. Yeah. Like, know enough to be dangerous. Because if you're completely ignorant, that's where you get swindled and you feel taken advantage of. But even from like an electrician or a plumber standpoint where they do require a lot of skills, yeah. If you can come in and you can be like, hey, the trap's leaking and this, you know, under my sink, and I feel like X, Y, and Z, you know, uh, they can come in and actually look at it, and you can have a conversation on what's happening and what's to be done.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

Yeah. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_03 16:18

I do think I think it's important to learn as many skills as you can like early on, so that when you're in like a like a like the earlier point in your life where you probably don't have like the disposable income to like pay for a lot of things, you have the capabilities to do as much as you can yourself. And then like John was saying, like when you're you know, more like if you're older, you're more like financially like secure, and it's like, okay, I can take my car to the shop and I'm not gonna get hosed. They're gonna, you know, they're not gonna say like, oh, we need to do A, B, C, and D, and you'll have like enough like knowledge to say, oh, I don't think that's actually what what needs to be done here. But I I think that that's one nice thing about like uh YouTube and being able to like learn so much is that you can uh gain those skills. I think you just have to know where your limits are. Like there's certain things I could do on my truck that I feel comfortable with, but then there's other things where I'm like, I'm gonna leave this to a legitimate professional to actually do. Like even right now it's in the shop because I think you know transmission's a little funky, and that's where I that's where my hands go up and I say, okay, get into the transmission, that's that's a little bit too much for me to mess with.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Agreed. And I think there's a lot of stuff in like the trades and in the in those skills that require particular tools to do the job correctly. Oh, yeah. That like when you have them, that's why they look, that's why a professional looks like they're they're working so quickly. Like if you have um if you're if you're watching a plumber work these days and they've got a pro press, they're flying. Yeah. And they look, it looks like it's like magical, right? But then you can go to the store and you can you can go cheap as shit and you can solder that shit yourself, mess it up potentially, yeah. Right? And that's the trade-off. They have a thousand dollar tool that makes them efficient, fast, and everything just works better. Yeah. A lot of people don't like like to give validation where validation is due, right? But you pay someone to come cut your lawn and they're on a you know, ten thousand dollar zero turn with a bagger on it, and it only takes them 30 minutes or something, it takes you two hours, and you're sitting there like, why would I pay$100? It only takes them 30 minutes. You're like, well, they have a machine that does a considerably better and faster job than yours that they invested money in, and that's why, you know, and and there's I think there's ebbs and flows to both sides, but once you have that like understanding, it does help you communicate and like trade off that value a lot better. I'm 100% with you. There's stuff that I know a hundred percent how to do top to bottom. I won't even go close to touching because it's just like I can't do it faster and I can't do it better. So why would I even try at this point? Because I can go do something else to then increase value in another area in my life, yeah. And then while that's also being done in unison, because that becomes a trade-off as you get older. Like you guys are almost a deck, Joe's a decade younger than like you get to a point where you're like, I just really don't think investing the three hours I have in an afternoon to do that is worth my time. I'd rather sit do it with my kids or do spend time with my wife or whatever, and that becomes a big part of the decision-making process, I think, is as you get older. The other thing too is needs versus wants, right? People who want things want to nickel and dime the contractor or the professional. When you need things, you're just kind of at their mercy. You know, and that's where you are praying that you've got a great person, you know, giving you good value on whatever they're thinking. Yeah. You burst some pipes in your house and you don't know how to do it, like you're at their mercy. You know, you got drywall issues now, you got pipes leaking, you got all this stuff. At least you can have a conversation if you know like the basics.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Yeah. And that shit's hard. Like detecting and like actually like rerouting, you're not doing some little shit under your sink. I mean, I'm talking about like full-blown home plumbing stuff.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

You're like, Yeah, I better get a prompt. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely certain jobs where it's best just to hire someone. Not for you. You love that at all. Yeah, the first time I ever had to pay someone to do something on my house, and it pained me to do it. I didn't want to do it, and then Kristen forced me because like pretty much like everything in my house I've just done myself. But we had a it was uh last year a real bad windstorm, and we had a piece of our flashing come off. But my house, it's like a brick house up on a massive hillside, so you couldn't even right now. If you had a ladder, you couldn't put it up against the side of the house because it's a slope right in front of it there. And I was like, I had to climb up on that roof and fix that. She's like, You're not going up on that roof, because like you drop, it's like a 30-foot, like you're you're not. So I was like, come on, and then that was the first thing I hired someone. He had like one of those cherry pickers where it's just like you're like an arm to went. Five minutes. Yeah, it did, it did take him like five minutes, but it cost me like five hundred and fifty dollars. I was like, I gotta got two sheet metal screws and climbed up on the roof and risked my life. Gonna get the whole job done for three dollars and fifty cents.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Is your life worth 500 bucks?

SPEAKER_03 21:09

I I don't know. Some days, some days it is. Ready to risk it for the biscuit.

Ranking Trades People Get Wrong

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah. Um, I so I have a huge list of jobs. Oh my god, Joe. That is a huge list. Oh wow. I have a long list. All right, on this list, tell me if you think the average guy could do these jobs. Uh electrician. No.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

No hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Absolutely not. Uh plumber? Nope.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

I'm gonna, you know what? I'm gonna argue. No. Don't even give it to him, Sam. Not that I advocate for it, but you'd be surprised how many people's homes you go in and they're like, check that pecs that see that that spaghetti of pecs up there. I will say, PEX has made it a lot more approachable. I still don't not say it's always done right, but it is done. We're gonna fight on this one.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Yeah, I don't know about plumbers. Uh mechanic.

SPEAKER_00 21:59

Yes. Yeah. So a mechanic is the difference. Here's the difference for me. There's almost always 100% a manual. And if you up the m that you you're not going to die from electrocuting yourself, or you're not going to ruin your you know quarter million dollar home.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

You could ruin a vehicle. You could.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Not necessarily, it just won't run. Well, you you could uh if you're like replacing the cylinder heads in your engine, which would be a dramatic difference from like changing a spark plug or your brakes.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

I've known people that do this, you change your oil, you forget to put the drain plug back in, driving that car a couple miles. No, that the engine's gonna seize.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Yeah, but it's just like you it would brick it though. You you you f wire in your house. Oh, yeah. And you made me throw an open wire, an exposed wire a little bit too close to anything metal. You burn your house down.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

And then with plumbing, you start getting into all the gases and stuff too, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Like you have to Yeah, you you gotta throw all that in the plumbing.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Yeah, plumbing, uh yeah, I feel like plumbing's tough.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

I wouldn't touch plumbing. I the last two areas of general home and contracting that I touched were plumbing and electrical. And it wasn't until I had masters and certified experts showing me how to do the things for both of them that I even went close to them. I still don't f plumbing. Anything happens plumbing, I just call someone. Yeah, I'm not not getting into it.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Could the average guy be a welder? No. Rudimentary welding, I'm thinking in my head.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

It depends. There's very significantly different tiers of welding, but I I say yes because I picked up welding pretty quickly, and I can I can do a lot of different things with welding. Now, like furniture grade welding and welding for like kind of stuff that I do isn't as like union pipe welding, like you're there but like yeah, I think union that's completely different. Yeah, because like a pipe fitter, my brother-in-law is a pipe fitter, and like it's just there's a lot of math that goes into it when you're doing like rise and fall and all this shit, and you're hanging from ceilings and blah blah blah. Like that, no, not everyone can do that. But I'm talking like you want to build a table base and grab a welder, you're pointing and shooting, basically, and anyone can do that. But uh, you know, welding car parts and stuff, probably not. If you want to weld a roofer, other stuff, probably not.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

I would I think the danger, like yeah, I think anyone could put a roof on.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

I I don't know how good it would be. You you ever try to do a fire and paper flat roof in the middle of July?

SPEAKER_03 24:31

No, it's saying it's gonna you're gonna enjoy it, but I will I'll say probably anyone could do it, but are they gonna do it with the same level of efficiency?

SPEAKER_00 24:40

I don't think you should ever do your own roof. I've done too many, and they're dangerous. You need specialty tools for a lot of things, you need to understand something.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Maybe not for a home, maybe for like a shed or something. A shed, yes. Yeah, roof your own shed, like or whatever you have doghouse, your two-story doghouse.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

There's a lot of products now, like when we yeah, we'd have to like tarn a roof, like a like a rubber roof. A carpenter.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

I would say yes. I feel like I feel like carpentry is one of the most friendly and inviting trades to like step into. It's just an average homeowner. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

And you can cut off limbs and stuff. Yeah, you might lose a finger. You know, there's that's the most dangerous thing you can do. Now you I I say that with a caveat, like structural stuff. You know, read a book or do something. My buddy just built a treehouse and he invited us over. I was like, I'm not going near that thing, bro. Oh you didn't call me once, you have no idea what you're doing. You're brilliant, but you work on Wall Street.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

What about an HVAC technician? Don't find that HVAC's messy, man.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

I I I've tried a few times. I installed a furnace with uh my furnace guy. I was mainly just handing him tools, and he kept speaking to me about the furnace, and I'd be like, Jerry, I don't I don't understand a f word you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

And he goes, That's because he wasn't speaking English. It would be my yeah. But my uncle was an union HVAC guy. And they have to have a lot of skills because they have to work around the other trades. He constantly said, he's like, We're the most, you know, we're the most elite trade there is because we have to know how to do carpentry, how to do plumbing, how to do plumbers make that same argument. Yeah, they do because they have to have basic skills. But the at the at the end of the day, the machine that they're building or working on is like its own little like amoeba that's like not that easy to understand.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Yeah. So now on to other jobs, just regular skill jobs. A chef or line cook? Could the average person say that thing, Joe, that you can't be on that same line? A chef or a line cook.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Line cook, yes. No. So if I wasn't doing this, I would have been a chef. Like that's the thing. I would have gone to cooking school. I could see that. Because I love cooking.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

I think anyone could be a chef. It just takes years to be great at it.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

That could be anything there. That could be any of the trades.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Could the average person do it? Be a chef? Chef, no.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

Line cook, yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

What about a barber?

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Yes. I've Yeah, actually, yeah. I think you guys are living proof of that. You guys are cutting all sorts of things. Yeah, I'd say no. What do you mean? I saw you do a fade on John.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Anyone can cut hair. I think that's like one of those ones that, dude, it takes years to get good at cutting someone's hair.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

I would argue there are people out there, not many, but people that have a natural skill for it that like could pick up some scissors or a button. That's not what we're talking about. Uh I don't think the average guy could spot it and cut hair.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Yeah, but I'm smiling hair.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Worst case scenario, my hair gets too long, I can just lop it. I'm just like shit. I would look like shit.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

You gotta layer it and you get textures, and then you're you're Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

The average person can't do all that.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Thickness, I mean, man, there's a lot that goes into it.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

It's not the easiest thing. Oh, no. Great hand control and dexterity.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Yeah, what if you get the little shakes? You cut someone's hairline and a little sober jump shaking.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

But like if you want to buzz your own head, like anyone can do.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

Yeah, like like very basic stuff. Could the average person be a bartender? No. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Bullshit, no. You're over here drinking your hoop-de-hoo, like bullshit, stupid drinks.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

I'm drinking the first four energy drinks.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

No, when you go to the bar. What do you mean? Bro, most people have a hoop-de-hoo, I'm having a face red blood wise.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

Pour liquor into a f cup.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

You can mix drinks with people, the memorization of them gets complicated.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

I'm saying, like, you go to like a busy bar like East Carson Street, back when East Carson Street was still like very active. Like those people, there's like a hundred people coming at you all at once.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

I knew so many of them, and I'm telling you, they were just they were built different. They are built different, but you they were normal people that just wanted to make extra money. They had other jobs.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

I know, but I'm saying it takes a certain type of person, though. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Could the uh go ahead?

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I was gonna say like it'd be different if it was like cheers. There were never more than like ten people at a time in that bar and cheered you. I guess when I'm looking at this list, I'm like, you shouldn't fear trying.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Oh no, no. And that's kind of what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Trying is one thing. Actually, being able to perform and do it is another. Which we're going off of.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

But I think the average person could be a bartender.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Okay. Well, what about a personal trainer? No fing chance.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

I think the barrier to entry for personal trainers is easy as far as Bro, what do you mean? There's not being good at it.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

If you walk up to me as a personal trainer trying to sell yourself, I'm telling you to kick rocks.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

I'm saying there's lots of people who are an average person and just go be in a person with personal. But I think the problem is people do. Yeah, there are. You're correct. They shouldn't. We're not saying you're wrong and staying. Like you're correct here. You're a personal trainer to be f jacked.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yeah, they not they aren't all.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

That's what I'm saying. We're saying you're correct. But we're saying the average person already does it.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Like that. No. You're you're you're no. Average average Joe's personal training? Like, come on. Uh put yourself.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Up next, a barista.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

What's what is that?

SPEAKER_03 29:54

You know what? You know what a barista is. Many like coffee machines you have, you know what a barista is.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

People that make coffee. The job that shouldn't exist. John, I think it's actually Honestly, you got you go to f Starbucks and 18-year-old kids in there pumping your dumb shit into your fing coffee.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Yeah. Yeah, but is that a barista? Is that a barista? You go to a uh a mom and pop coffee shop. So can anybody do it? A local family-owned coffee shop. Those baristas are really like whipping it off.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

I make the same argument as I did with the bartender that you gotta be a certain type of person with a certain level of hustle, and you have to be meticulous too. You have to repeat every every one of those drinks exactly the same every time. When it's busy, you gotta feel like they've like stuff more systematized, but you go to like La Prima or something. I'm not knocking baristas, but I go to my like if you're just pumping stuff out of a can or a bottle. I would say that they gotta run that machine, the espresso machine, they gotta froth the bigger.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

He makes me cappuccino or whatever they're called with the with the with a little leaf in the bow my neck.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

But could he do it if there were 60 people in line screaming at him? Protesters out on the street, fired, cans kicked over, and M1 Abrams comes churning down the road.

Physical Labor That Humbles Everyone

SPEAKER_02 31:04

All right, onto physical labor jobs. Up first, we got movers. Could anyone be a mover? Yeah, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Yeah, I can but I will say hiring movers 100% of the time you should do it. You watch movers move and you're like, good for you.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Yeah, but that's one of those ones where like that's expensive. It's worth every penny. Yeah, but like sometimes people can't afford movers. You might as well just get yourself.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

I get that part. But if you can, I would say up for the movers instead of the dumb shit you're gonna buy for your house. Because it's worth like they move better than you, they're more efficient, they're faster, your body doesn't hurt mentally. The loads off of you, they insure everything, they break something, they replace it. Yeah, like you break your own shit, you're fingers. It's like a luxury item. If you can do it, do it. If you I would save up for it. Can you get like I moved my whole house five six years ago for like a thousand dollars? It was it was it was incredible. Two trucks, yeah, you guys rule. There's other tipped them with homemade wine, they were awesome. I didn't know he made wine. I don't, my grandfather used to before he lost his mind. Yeah. And he I had like a but could the average person be a mover? I mean, it's a physically demanding job, but yeah. You know, it doesn't require any like mass high-level cognitive skills. You just gotta pack shit and move it.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Um break it back. What about a landscaper? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Yeah, that's pretty much most people I there's a big landscaping outfit in my hometown, and pretty much like if you were 16, you were either cutting grass on your own or working for the local landscaper that employed like every 16-year-old able-bodied male.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

So I think everyone should try to be a landscaper because you learn you're outside, you're in the elements, you're dealing with difficult stuff, it's consistent work. You learn how to work hard, you have to work a job that like has some physicality to it. Right. Yeah, you actually got to be strategic with your time.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

That's a rewarding one, too. I feel like a lot of people notice good landscaping. Oh, and they also notice poor landscaping. Oh, yeah. Um up next, demolition work.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

This is one I think anyone could do, but when done wrong, the results could be very bad for either yourself or the the Could anyone do it?

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Yes or no?

SPEAKER_03 33:14

I no, I'd argue not anyone could do that. I know that's I I I don't even know if I fully agree with that. It kind of is, but you have to I it's you have to be a certain type of person, though. I mean, you're gonna I guess I'm thinking like very intense demolition. I don't know. I don't think everyone is equipped to do that.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

What are you talking about? Like blowing up Three River Stadium? No, I'm talking about like knocking on the walls in a in a in a house you're gonna rebuild. What are you what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 33:42

I don't know. I just like like the landscaping, it's like I feel like anyone could, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Bro, demo is way less skill and cognition than I agree.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Maybe not knocking down buildings, but tearing off drywall, I think anyone can. Well that's different. What are you thinking though? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Are you thinking of like blowing up? Concrete pad? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

That's easier than tearing out drywall because you don't gotta worry about physically it's hard, but anyone can run a jackhammer. Yeah. Not very well, but they can they can try it.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

Stand by it. I still think you've got to be the right type of. Okay. What about a concrete worker? Not everyone could do that.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Yeah, I'd say no. God, no. Good concrete work. Don't go near that.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Even that is backbreaking. Even the best concrete workers, they'll get out of it at like 40. It's like, what do you used to do? It's like, I was a concrete worker. It's like, why'd you stop? It's like it's gonna kill me. Like, look at this arm.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Yeah. A garbage collector. No. That's one of those jobs that I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Now that is a job I would say you gotta be built different. It's underrated. Yeah, people like think that's just dog working. It's pretty automated though these days. You sit in the truck, hit the button, and pick your cake. Not all. No, not everywhere. My neighborhood they don't.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Not everywhere. People are still hopping around trucks, grabbing stuff.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

You see some awesome content of dudes that like enjoy it, and they'll be like, they'll throw like a magnetic speaker on the outside of it, flying down the road, running, throwing bags in, blaring like Sleem Beyond or something hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

That'd be one of those jobs that's interesting if you're on a consistent run to see what people are throwing away constantly, if it's out of bags. Yeah. Sorry. A warehouse worker.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah. And I did that job.

First Responders Are Built Different

SPEAKER_02 35:19

You could do that. Alright. Last few here. Uh, these are high pressure jobs. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

Get rid of those.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Nope. We're going through it. No, no, no, no, no. A police officer. No.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Not everyone can do that.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

A firefighter?

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Paramedic? Nope. Air traffic controller. Nope. Could you guys do uh could you be a 911 operator?

SPEAKER_00 35:44

That would be emotionally very intense. That would, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Yeah, those people are built different.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah, I don't think I guess. Now we're on to the uh different to be a first responder.

Content Creation Is Real Work

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Uh looks fun or easy job. These are our last three. A YouTube slash content creator, could any person do it?

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Yes. Could they be successful? Nope.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Sam?

SPEAKER_03 36:09

I think that's a fair take.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

I think any anyone can do it, but uh yeah, I feel like I don't think people realize to be a content creator of any kind that it is actually a job, and that like you are married to your audience and the consistency and you owe them. Like you don't just get to do whatever the hell you want and all and like all this shit. Like there is a lot of pressure to publish, regardless of how big you are, regardless of size. And a lot of people don't equate that to being a job because you're filming and making content, but it's no different than a television show, it's no different than uh a movie or like you are under pressure to publish constantly. Even you feel like shit, it doesn't matter. Turn the fucking camera on, right? You hurt yourself, doesn't matter. Turn the fucking camera on, right? You got employees, it's even worse. You gotta show up 100% of the time, no excuses, and get it done. If not, you're gonna die. And like that's what that's a different level of work than I think most people get. And even if you're not like you guys are around it a lot, but what people don't see in being a content creator is that it's like you're it's the entrepreneurial hustle. Like you have to do the work regardless of the reward you're getting. And it's usually punted and delayed because you gotta build the audience. It's a very yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

What about just a general podcaster?

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Yes, I feel like I'm sure anyone can do it. You just you want to win, you gotta be you're gonna be trying hard.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Uh and lastly, an influencer.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

You want to make money doing it, it's like anything. No, it's not easy. I only know this because since launching the Creator Playbook, man, I'm out there trying to help as many people as I can grow their content businesses, and you just see so many people, they're putting in the work, but like if all you do is make the videos and you never do any work in the analytics or the planning or the strategy or like improvements of what you can do or the business side of things where you're driving revenue and developing product and all that, like the eyeballs aren't worth anything. That's not easy. It's like it's just like owning a cabinet shop. You gotta sell the work and you gotta build the work. Yeah. People don't realize that about being a content creator. You gotta make the content and you gotta sell the content, and you gotta sell off the back of the content. So it's like there's a lot of work that goes into it. You guys are like, yeah, it's easy.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

I think it's every job. I think it's just different, different applications. Like, I I think like it's just different scenarios for people in the physical labor world. It's just a different kind of work.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

I will say that if you get into being an influencer and making content for a career and you're not in a world where the content you're creating gets you paid from actually the work you're doing, yeah, then you are going to be struggling for a while. Like if we did if I didn't start this by actually building projects and selling them to people, that's where I was making money. I wasn't making any money from the content. And I was able to do that for a long time until the content money overtook the income from like building shit.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Yeah.

Could You Start The Business

SPEAKER_00 39:03

But if you just want to like make content about being a mom, they'll love you for that, but like you're not being paid to be a mom. You know? And so like you've got to figure out the business along with your content fast, or it's gonna be really, really, really hard. And um that's that's kind of the difference in like most jobs getting started, is like being an influencer. You're like, yeah, you could sit there and play video games all day long unless you're playing in tournaments to win money or something. I don't know how to make money playing a video game, right? But like you see, my point is like you could be making content for a minute before you build the audience, it's actually gonna give you the return for the time you're investing in making all the content. And that's uh completely different than any other job. You walk in and being a landscaper, someone's paying you to cut their grass. At least you're getting paid to do that. You want to make content on top of it, and now you're doubling up, kind of thing. Which is which I think a lot of people misconstrue with being an influencer or making content. Now you can win with doing it, you just gotta be ready to play the long game. Which is what I think life is about. Investing in the long game. In the long game, and yeah, the uh you know, punting your return still down the line. That's what real winning is.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

All right, could you guys start a business tomorrow doing these jobs? Okay. All right. Let's go. Up first, electrician.

SPEAKER_03 40:22

I don't want anything to do with that as a as a business owner. I'm gonna say way harder than you think. Like one below it. I I s I think all the all the actual like intense shit I couldn't do, but the basics, like like John was saying, I think like the basics.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Maybe handyman, but like I yeah, I'm not going near that. There's no way I could do it. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's too much for me.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

Um a plumber. No chance.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

No chance. No chance.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Mechanic.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Yeah, I don't have this. Me personally, no, I got nothing.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Um I can like barely change my harder than you think because I feel like doing jobs like for yourself where it's like I took five hours to change my alternator. It's like if you try if you did that at a shop, you'd be fired.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

It's like I'm gonna actually argue against his answer because I think you undervalue your general knowledge. I think Joe would agree here. Is that like if you wanted to tomorrow, I'd put you in the learnable category category because you could solve probably 70% of the problems, maybe not with actually doing the labor, but you know where to go to get an answer. I think that's fair. I mean, I could definitely couldn't do it as fast or anything as they could. But if you like life or death and you had to be a mechanic tomorrow, I think you would definitely be close to that learnable part. Oh well, thank you. I mean, I mean, shit, Joe and I pull in the driveway, and you're like, oh, you should look at that front ball joint, John. It sounds like it's you know getting getting worn down. Or he's like, Hey, Joe, when's the last time you had them brakes? Making shit up to sound important.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Your combobulator's a bit out of whack there. I'd get that looked at. You're quantum mechanic, uh, a roofer. Me personally, I've never I've never done any roofs, so I'm just gonna say no chance or way harder than you think. And that kind of like I I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

I'll probably say way harder than you think. If I had to tomorrow, I could do it. It's just I wouldn't want to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

A lot of physical labor there. Uh welder.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

I don't know. Me personally, no chance. But learnable for me. Now that's something I think I could jump into and I could get, you know, basic, like basic welding stuff. I think you can learn it, Paula. And then I could get learning.

SPEAKER_03 42:28

Welding. I mean, probably probably. I will say the metalwork stuff, it's like it's so foreign to me. Like the best I've ever done is like the stuff here. Like, I have like no prior background in it.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

I'll say I'll say this to his defense. If you've done woodwork for a long time, that's why I think you can learn metalwork breaks your brain because it's additive and not subtractive, like wood is.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

I will say I'm starting to pick up on things like that. That I'm like, oh wow, woodworking helped me out a lot in this. Because uh Kristen and I are still doing that stained glass project, and I'm so good at grinding the glass. She's like, How are you so good at that? I'm like, this is like a spindle sander, like this is all we're doing here.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Yeah, uh carpenter could do. Could do. Wow. That was cherry-picked. Uh a chef.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

See, I feel like chef. All right, so this is tough because if you like watch the bear, they all call themselves chef. It's a good sign of respect. But I'm looking at like I could be a line cook tomorrow, I could do it. But like, I couldn't go in and I couldn't like start a restaurant. Unless you're working at a hungry man restaurant. I th I think the the skill isn't what the easy part is. I think it's if you were to say easier than expected, I think it would if you talk to most line cooks and chefs, it's like the atmosphere is tough. It's the speed, it's the intensity, it's the attention to detail. Probably learnable. I would say learnable, yeah. Learnable seems very I think we both like to cook and it would be an interesting test for uh a bartender.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

I say learnable, I feel like. I think learnable is appropriate. Yeah, yeah. You think something else? You think it's easier than expected?

SPEAKER_00 43:55

Yeah, I don't want that job. No, hell no. I'd throw that no chance, but I mean it's definitely learnable if I I was life or death. I could learn it.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

I'd love to see you as a bartender. Yeah, could I get a white Russian? Why are you putting this milk in your body? You're already putting this alcohol in your body.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Actually, I do love the Big Lebowski, so I'd probably make that. But if you were like, give me a rum chata shot, I'd be like, unless you're 22, no.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Our favorite a mover.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

I could do it. That would suck. My body's already fallen to pieces.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

I mean, I'm just now we get into the debatable ones.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

A police officer. Oh, get that out of here. Get that out of here. No. A firefighter. Not answering. So I will say the only my buddy's a volunteer fireman and uh they're constantly looking for recruits and stuff, and I have the utmost admiration for it. The only reason I will throw it in learnable is because of that opportunity to be a volunteer before you get it. Like you don't get to volunteer to be a cop. You don't get to volunteer to be a first responder anywhere else. So they like can groom you up. That's the only reason I'd say it's learnable. I'm not knocking firefighters at all shit. You have to have giant balls, and you can't have facial hair, which would be like you can only have mustaches, you know.

SPEAKER_03 45:11

Stepdad, he was a firefighter, and he sold me some of those horrific stories. I'm like, that's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Oh yeah, my buddy all the way on me like mentally. Yeah, yep, yep. The only reason it's learnable is.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

And then we wrapped up on content creator or slash YouTuber. Obviously, I could do that today. What about you, Polo, with your ranking?

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Sure, let's put on could do. Do you would you guys both ever entertain on your own? Like, say to say, say my hip surgery doesn't go well on the 21st. You know, we can't do this anymore. Are you guys gonna stick with would you stick with it? Stick with content creation? Yeah. I think you I know you would. Yeah, I I think I found a passion for something. I could see that.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

I can see a world like that. For him. For both of us. I feel like we're both pretty passionate about it at this point. Yeah.

The Creator Work Never Ends

SPEAKER_02 46:01

Nice. It's it's way different. It's a different world. I think like it's a different kind of work. I always go back and forth. So many other jobs are way more physically demanding. I think our job is a way more it's a lot of mental work a lot of times.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

And speed, like an ungodly amount of speed.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

You guys get you do get thrown into the crowd of physical labor with the trades. It's not the same physical labor as other demanding jobs, but like it is still physical labor. So you have that added in the mental capacity, and then the internet never shuts off, contrary to popular belief. So it's like for us to continue to make money, it's like we have to continue to post content, man. And it just it never turns off. So like there's no like you know, I I know people, I've heard of businesses that might coast through 11 months of the year and don't take any jobs in December or something. Yeah. And they have a whole month off, and it's like we will never have that luxury. But there's other things that we get that are other people don't, you know.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

It's kind of like a more difficult version of a sitcom because you could be someone that's on a sitcom for like five years, the sitcom gets cancelled, and it's like I'm getting residual checks for like the rest of my life because they're playing reruns or this or that, but with YouTube, it's almost like a never-ending sitcom. You know what I mean? I mean, you do get some like carryover, I guess, from like past videos, but not as much as like I was at Seinfeld for three years.

Would Hollywood Be Harder

SPEAKER_02 47:18

At least we are in Hollywood, though. That'd be miserable. In Hollywood, yeah. Yeah. I feel like you have to give up so much of your own moral compass to be in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

I feel like there's a part of me that would be drawn to that. Just to try. Like, I want to try. Not for the moral compass part. Just like I was I'd be more interested in the high level of intensity just after this, right? To see what it takes. Like, I would be really curious to be like, you know, at a high, high production set for something. Because I've been on sets for show TV shows, and they don't feel as like our work environment is more pressure-filled than those. I think they just have a ton of people and they're just pointing cameras, yeah. And they're like, all right, we get that cut, cool. We're over here like running literally circles around one another. We're way more lean, but I'd love to be on like a highly intense movie or something like that, just to like see what it's like.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

Yeah, no, it'd be cool to see what the work environment was like. I feel like honestly.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

I wouldn't want to be married to Hollywood. Like that would be.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

I think they're different. I think like the work that we're accustomed to with YouTube is very like there's a lot of satisfaction to it. You film something, you're a part of it. A lot of people can be involved in a shoot, and you like remember certain things. Like those Hollywood productions, man, they're just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Like I said, I'd just be curious to like feel it out.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

You start dealing with bigger budgets, and it's a whole nightmare.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Yeah, a couple shows, like I we I've filmed a few pilots, probably done like four, and I've been on like two TV shows, and you're like, it's just not as real as what we do. Like, we don't fake much, we set things up, but then after that, it's all real. We do keep a lot of shows. Okay, can we do that again? But John, can you say like, can you do that again, John? But I need you looking over here because the lights over here.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

People always ask about like the return palettes. It's always a comment, like, where do you guys get this from? And we go out of our way to make sure those are authentic. Yeah, you know, more than we probably should. Most YouTubers fake that shit. I mean, it's it's crazy how much people like. Yeah. It's a gold bar. Yeah. Address to me. What? Spending tens of thousands of dollars on shit just to be able to film a video. It's like oh yeah.

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SPEAKER_00 49:24

I catch it just, yeah, that burns a pool. That burns a hole. But cool. Well, this was a fun one. Um, minus the hungry man. I mean, I got a lot of joy out of this episode. So you guys tell me. What do you want to see more of in the next one? If you want to catch anything early, make sure you're checking out the builder bunker. And thank you once again to First Form for keeping us fueled with good stuff to bring this episode to you. See you guys in the next one. That is delicious. That actually is a phenomenal drink.