We Ranked Every Tool Storage System

In this episode, we’re building the perfect setup for the weekend warrior, the contractor, the tool addict, and the unlimited-budget psychopath—before putting every single brand live on our tier list. We ranked every tool storage system, from Milwaukee Packout and Snap-on toolboxes to a classic coffee can full of mismatched screws. From S-Tier essentials to absolute garbage, let's settle the debate.

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Transcript

Job Site Toughness Standard

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hackout looks cool, like you feel cool. They are not job site ready. Your identity behind job site is like I need to be able to throw it off a 10-foot building, take a shit on it, and then throw it on the road while I'm driving. 100%, yeah. I'll stand on that, yeah. So

Why Tool Storage Gets Ignored

SPEAKER_00 0:16

we've talked about tools, we've talked about toys, we've talked about the shop, and one thing we've overlooked dramatically is where do you put all this shit? So today we're diving deep into storage. Everything from toolboxes to cabinets to mason jars, coffee cans. We're ranking them all and giving our insights on what we think is good for the homeowner, the shop owner, the random Joe, the random Sam, or whoever. This one should be interesting. I feel like there's a lot of hot debates inside of the storage world when it comes to tools and your stuff. Um, and I've got some I've got some pretty uh strong opinions

Haircut Comments And Warm-Up Banter

SPEAKER_00 0:53

on those things. But before we get into it, Sam, how are you feeling today? Excellent. The comments on the last few videos have been tearing you to pieces. I don't know if you've witnessed it. In what way? I mean, I didn't want to have to tell you. But it's your hair. You know the best part about my hair? Is that you still have it? It grows back. I think it's funny that there were comments in the last couple episodes on Sam's hair. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here the whole time. I'm like, damn, Sam's got a killer head of hair, dude. I'd love to have that. I'm balding every day, I'm turning gray. I can't keep my shit staying on my head, and you guys are gonna knock Sam. Three weeks, he'll grow back. He'll be okay. I think your hair looks great, buddy. That's a blatant lie. It's a blatant lie.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Your hair looked like shit after that last week. You should fire that guy. I don't think he looks bad. It looks good now. There's no there's no pre growth for three weeks. I feel like that's a normal rite of passage. I feel like that happens to most guys. I've seen memes about that. Oh, yeah, you go to the barber, you're like, hey, I want to want to do like A, B, C, or D, and they spin you around, and it's like, that's not at all what I asked for, and you pay your $20 and you walk out, and you're it's the problem. $20 haircuts are mine are $20, but that's thinking of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Yeah. My mom's owned a hair salon for like 30 years. I never left there once thinking I didn't look great. Well, that's 100% nailed it every time.

SPEAKER_04 2:08

But that's the difference. A salon, you always get a good haircut. Barbers, you roll the dice. Uh why are you going to barbers then? Well, uh, there's not many salons for men, and salons get expensive too.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

The amount of times you go to get your hair done, uh, you know what I'm not even gonna get into. Like once every six weeks? That's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

That's there's 50 times a year.

SPEAKER_04 2:27

That's like a little over 11 times.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

I cut my hair like once every six months. Well, my hair grows fast. You do have a lot of it. Anyway, you guys are tearing them to pieces in the comments today. We plan on tearing to pieces all of the uh different options there are for storing things. I think uh but right now I'm not really that hungry, so we're we're gonna wait off on uh on our snack segment. It smells terrible in here, just so you guys know. And I don't know if it's the snack or the can of WD40 next to the snack. Um, we'll be we'll be coming to that here in a sec. Uh, but so Joe, why don't you why don't you lead us off? Tell the good people what we're what we're what we're getting into

Avoid Brand Loyalty Traps

SPEAKER_00 3:04

here today.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

We're we're ranking toll storage systems, everything from the average DIYer weekend warrior all the way to the the contractor grade systems they sell at your local Home Depot that you might consider purchasing, but could be a little bit out of your budget.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Do you need it? Do you not? They've gotten insane. Like there's whole sections in the big box stores now for just storage.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

I watched some video over the weekend of some dude from the UK. Um, it's like DIY dude or something. I don't know. He has a pretty solid-sized channel. Got my name. I don't know, I forget his name. Very unique name. 800k followers on on YouTube. He like went through Home Depot and was like, Yeah, we don't have any of this. Like, our stores don't have you can't just get a toolbox off of like the floor like this. You have to like order everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

I thought that was very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

I think it's in I wish someone would pay us to go to Europe and shoot a video shopping for tools over there because I feel like it's a completely different experience anytime we talk to a European. They're like, none of that's the same thing. None of that's available here. You can't. I didn't know about that at all. Well, between all the regulations, then brands also only sell different certain SKUs in certain markets too. So, like you know how we get like different stuff between like North Pittsburgh and South Pittsburgh? Yeah. It's like they imagine going over the pond.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

Their stuff's all online. Okay, they have some cool stuff over there too. Like, I always see like that Bosch line of like they're like garden tools or like green. That's like homeowner grade stuff. Bosch loves Bosch. That's a phenomenal brand. But even like the Makita tools, also, like you get those Japanese Makita tools, those ones are wild.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

They do yeah, you do. I love seeing some brand. I don't know why they don't do them in America, to be honest. Some brands it'll do like the specialty like color wave or the specialty like whatever.

SPEAKER_04 4:44

I always wonder, regardless of if it's like tools, cars, whatever, if it's strictly like a business decision they're making where it's like it's it doesn't make any financial sense for us to do this, or if there's a little bit of like national pride where they're like, don't give them the good ones. The good ones, the good ones stay here.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

I don't know. So speaking of business moves, is like when you're thinking of storage, are you thinking of it in regards to being something to like financially be more efficient? Or like where's your where's your head go when it comes to storage?

SPEAKER_04 5:15

I feel like I I I don't know. I kind of like a if I'm thinking like modular storage, like we talking that, or like actually like in the general, like what's the biggest mistake people make when buying storage for their first home, or like I think the biggest mistake someone makes is like thinking that they have to like buy into a full-fledged system or like a super expensive like ABC or D in order to get organized. I feel like once you get your system down first, like it doesn't matter if you've got like old cabinets with drawers, you can make that organized.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

All I hear in my head when you say that is John saying, loyal to no brand. Loyal to nothing.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Well, I'm just it's woman. It's a bad move, man. I'm just saying, like, don't get me wrong, I have some packouts, I love my pack outs, but to just fully commit to that, you have to take out like a HELOC on your house in order to afford that. It's like not wrong, you know. If you have a hybrid system, you know, like I loved my pack outs for like contracting. Like contracting, it was great. It's like, okay, I got a pack out for batteries, pack out for fasteners, a packet for like that's different, you know. But if it's just your garage, you could fabricate anything into a storage system, like whatever works for you. I feel like honestly, anytime you see like a super neat, clean, like everything is perfect in its place, like all one brand of organizational system, it's usually a place where not much work gets done. Like I saw this video of this guy's garage where he had like a like a Corvette in there and all these like uh like real nice like rolling toolboxes, and it's like, oh, I have like my hideaway from my wife in here. And it's like there's no work that gets done. It's all looks very nice, but you're not Sam all about that right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Uh really the looks I guess when I got started, I I think like a good place to begin with is you do do exactly what Sam said. You just want to like slap together whatever you've got available and make it work for whatever your workflow is. I distinctly remember perusing the um like the the jacked up cabinet section at Lowe's every time I went when I was living in when I was working out of the the homestead shop for years. Like, cause you can get like a $150 lower cabinet with three drawers that has like a dinged corner for 50 bucks. And like that's the type of stuff I was if you go look at that old shop that I was in, I was just throwing that stuff wherever I could get a space in it and throwing stuff in drawers to keep like workspaces kind of clean. Um, but there is a balance between like learning how to build the storage and getting those skills and then you just using those skills and then using them in your profession, which I do think is like an important trade-off for like the shop storage element, regardless of what trade you're in. But then there's like the side of are you on site a lot? Because like you don't need a bunch of storage, like like like Jason, for instance, he's not working out of a shop primarily, he needs it from time to time, needs to be organized enough to like get in there and get work done. But that dude has to take every tool to every job every time. Oh, yeah. That's where the trailer comes in, or Joe's favorite, like the uh the military built-out uh truck bed vehicle with you know whatever the hell you were trying to sell us on the over the van episode. Um sold you guys on sold. I I think that that's like an interesting dichotomy though, and and I I'll give it to you, you're 100% right. You don't need to buy into like a single line, even though they are elite now. These did not exist at all 15 years ago when I was getting into this. You know, it was it was very much like figure that shit out yourself. A lot of pegboard, a lot of junk, a little bit of YouTube, not a lot of YouTube expertise. Then you see guys like like Jimmy Daresta in his shop, it's just shit everywhere, like constantly, and a lot of work's getting done. But Jimmy's like probably knows where every single tool is in his brain. That's how I got into the into the shop stuff. So I was never really focused on organization, but now that we have multiple people like that always need to find stuff, I'm like hyper-fixated on it. It's probably like a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

How do you feel about like the overspending on storage and like underspending on your tools? So you have like $2,000 of storage and then maybe like a even $50 drill. Does it you think that matters as like would you rather spend your money on the tools itself over the storage?

SPEAKER_00 9:22

I think it depends on what industry you're in. One and then two like what does this what does the storage stand for for you? Because I know like automotive guys will get into the snap-on boxes and it's just like a matter of pride for them, like before they get the tools.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

I I will say I I've I've never felt so so much better about myself, and like I've got different like you know, storage things I like to be better with or organizational things I like to be better with. But when we went to that NASCAR event and they had like little roller drawers, I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna have to hang my head in shame. All this stuff's gonna be like perfectly labeled and organized, and he rips it open, there's just wrenches scattered everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

It's like it's our wrench drawer, it's a dumpster fire, it's a fire drawer, it's a dumpster fire.

SPEAKER_04 10:04

Yeah, I think to each their own. I don't know. Some people can function it with that, some people can't. I don't know. Oh yo, a storage, I always like the you were like the French cleat, like when people do their own like plywood storage, they'll just kind of build out their shop like that. I feel like that's I feel like any kind of storage system where you can customize it as you go as things change, I feel like that's super elite.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

I think a lot of it has to do these days with the size of your shop. Like right now, I look at our storage systems and like the shop's like pretty big, like the working area and the wood shop at least is like 3,000 square feet, right? You're like humping it around to get stuff, like you're not like everything in one area. And I feel like uh an exposed shop wall is is a phenomenal solution. Like the French cleat or you know, peg whatever sits, like hanging shit on the wall that's always there and readily available works really well if you're able to just stay in one spot and do the work like within two or three steps of the wall. But once you get into a bigger shop, like I feel like that that works against you. At least it has in our experience where we're like, oh, we've got to get the drills, let's walk 50 steps over there to grab them, and then another 50 steps back, we're just starting to kind of solve that stuff. So I I find it interesting in like paying for storage solutions, going back to Joe's questions, like before you have the tools, because like you don't know what your workflow is gonna look like long term. I do, I will say though, that automotive, like if you're getting into all of the tools that go into that world, I do feel like that you're probably should be more inclined to get storage for all that shit maybe before you have all the shit. Because it could you could lose stuff so much easier, I feel like, and and and be completely disorganized with it. Um you know, with all like the there's just there's just so many more little things. I mean, if you're like a carpenter, I don't think you need to invest in storage before you carpent yeah. I make that up. He's carpentin over there. Carpentin. Just taking a nap. It's all good. He's deep in research. So I think with that, like the options for the beginner.

Cheap Cabinets And DIY Builds

SPEAKER_00 12:05

I'm gonna go first. Elite level is gonna be hitting the scratch and dent or messed up cabinet section at your Lowe's or Home Depot. You can get like something with something that's barely dinged up for for a decent price that just boom gets you going, gets your stuff out of clutter uh being like on top of your work surface, and then it can start to get you a little bit more organized. That's my number my first go-to for the like the beginner DIY kind of shop storage situation.

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Yeah. Yeah, I think like banking off that even if you can't even find anything like a scratch and dent, uh like Lowe's or Home Depot marketplace when people get rid of kitchens or upgrade their kitchens. Sometimes there's phenomenal deals. Sometimes people are like, I just want it out of here. Uh yeah. That's that's that's I I forgot about that. Get yourself a used kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Okay, so I used to do a lot of work with um my my buddies, uh, the Bonneras here in Pittsburgh. They're do like high-end cabinetry, and they would call me every time they were tearing out a kitchen, to Sam's point, um, because they had cabinets left over, or another s another hack is the granite or countertops. Because they're pulling those out and they want to pull them out. Like you see, a lot of people go in and demo kitchens, they're gonna smash things to bits and make a huge mess. And but like that's not how pros do it. Pros go in and they're like they're cutting things on seams, they're getting them out there in big pieces as possible because they're easier to transport as as often as they can, at least in my experience. Um, they they might break it still, but they're not breaking them into like tiny chunks like this, like us idiots that do it ourselves do. Um, so I used they used to get me like more or less like two, three cabinet span, like a granite or for mica tops that they were taking out. And I'd be able to just throw those in my shop. Um, and so that was a that's a that's a great hack there. Is like if you can make friends with a local cabinet shop and they're doing demo, and you can either like you know, see if you can grab something out of their dumpster or you know, offer to work for them on a demo day or something to get some stuff. Like you can you can get uh yeah, you can get a whole kitchen basically put it in your shop.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Yeah, a lot of people don't want to deal with the hassle. Some people will, some people will list all the cabinets individual sizes and resell them, but most people are like, just get it out of here. I don't want I don't want it sitting in my garage.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

They're primarily not worth anything too. Because they're you're gonna get effed up getting them out, right? So that yeah, that's a that's another great habit. It's like the used cabinet. Um, the third thing I would say to consider if you're like a DIYer, you want to like upgrade the storage in your shop, is like get some plywood and learn how to build some cabinet boxes. Frameless cabinets, uh, ball-bearing drawer slides, you can go really far with just three-quarter inch plywood, like really far and save yourself a considerable amount of money, and then build yourself some some honestly lifelong skills that that you're gonna be glad you did. Um, you'll be you'll be blown away by how fast you can build cabinet boxes, and then also blown away by how long it takes to build drawer boxes.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, then you do it properly. Yeah. So like as far as DIY goes, like you can do those for pretty cheap. Like, and I wish I knew that getting started because I was like workbenches and tools and all this stuff, and I was like, man, if I would have just laid out my storage situation and stopped throwing like sheets of goods on two by four kind of like stilts and stuff and like built-out cabinets, I'd have been a lot more efficient and I'd have probably got a lot more skills uh developed than what I had at that at the onset. It's probably why I leaned more into like table building than cabinet building.

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Toolboxes That Fit Your Trade

SPEAKER_00 16:41

let's get back to argument.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Yeah, I guess, I guess from like a building standpoint, I feel like mechanics, like there's so many storage systems out there for your shop. I feel like for like woodworkers, there's not really like a stock, like, oh, just go buy A, B, C, or D. And if there is, it's like just so expensive. I feel like most woodworkers kind of.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Well, you get screwed on like so. It's interesting, like you got like like Home Depot sells husky toolboxes and they're solid. They do make like this kind of like middle ground size drawer. It's like that two to three inch thick drawer. You can get a good amount of stuff in it, you can't get a ton in there, but like you can get a lot of general purpose things, and I guess they are built made for like automotive to keep like a longer socket like on its vertical instead of laid down. But with that being said, those drawers adapt pretty well to being in any trade. Okay. I I think. Yeah. When you get into like snap on or like we have a Milwaukee, two Milwaukee boxes or something, they have a lot of those like inch, inch and a half, inch and a quarter thick, right? Drawers. You can't do much with those if your tools aren't in the automotive. So like you don't have flat wrenches and you don't have flat tools and like the sockets and whatever. Those don't really, I don't know. I feel like we don't put a lot of our carpentry tools in the really shallow drawer boxes. We're putting like pencils and bits, and we fill those with a bunch of like the junk, they potentially turn into like giant junk drawers. Yeah. So they look awesome, they feel more organized, but be weary that like that thinner drawer if you go and buy a toolbox. Now, you can get toolboxes used all over the internet, like all over the marketplace. Is Craigslist even a thing? Craigslist. Um still is, yeah. But I would be weary if you're like, I've really wanted to adapt those toolboxes to like our workflow, being more of like a woodworking carpenter kind of DIY shop. And we do find it like uh we take up space and they're really inefficient for like we have a lot of them, so we're fine, but like we have the really inefficient in um in like the kind of tools we have, yeah. Yeah, you can't even get like a full battery in in in like my Milwaukee drawer box.

SPEAKER_04 18:37

No, no, it's like you said, strictly for like small things. But my dad's shop, he has is it was actually an old dentist's uh cabinet. Those things are built like bomb proof. Oh, they're it's so great, but it's like you said, the only thing he'll have in there, like it's a router bit drawers and like like small stuff, but you're not fitting any tools, batteries, like anything like massive in there, which it's good to have something for your small shit, but so the ultimate, I'll say this as a a nod to society today.

Black Totes For Job-Based Kits

SPEAKER_00 19:05

I think the ultimate, like if you're like, I don't know, a shop worker or your DIYer that like does some work on the side and maybe makes a couple bucks, or even like this, this could work for pros because I know some pros that use it, is um like the homemade storage and black tote solution, right? So like I feel like that has like it's hitting like this like pinnacle or peak wave. Like a lot of people are doing it. You see people for some reason selling like storage racks for these black totes instead of having the people needing their totes fill them themselves. All that being said, one of the most efficient things you can do if you're like working on site and you want to get into some storage for cheap is just go buy black totes, label them, and throw all your crap in them. At least you have the tote labeled for the job you're doing. So, like for a while I had tiling, drywall, paint, um, plumbing, like all that shit was just in black totes. We do a lot of it now still for like deep storage. Yeah, but you grab that tote, you go on site, you're way better off than showing up with a bunch of stuff chucked in bags or like floating all over whatever. So I think that I think that's an underutilized storage mechanism that can can honestly be really good if you're like if you can think that way.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Yeah, I think that's super beneficial, especially if you're someone that's like contracting and stuff like that, too, where it makes way more sense, like you said, just to have it organized by like the type of job rather than like, oh, I've got my wrench drawer and this and that. Like I would have like a plumbing box and electrical box, and it's like, okay, it's just grab and go whenever I need it. Because you don't always need all of those tools on every job, and it's just already divvied out.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

I'm uh I'm actually he's probably not gonna hear this, but you guys can tag him. Mike Farrington, love that guy. Uh, he's a phenomenal woodworker, and he's been in like the carpentry trades for a long time. Back when I was doing that work for like primary revenue for us, um, him and I were talking a lot, and I took some great tips from his YouTube channel. And if you remember, like we've we've I've showed you his stuff. Uh I leaned a little bit more into it than I think you were. But if you remember, he had the van that he would pull into his shop, and then he had a wall of duplicate tools that were all for on-site work, and then he had all of his shop tools that were the same tool, yeah, but they were all for staying in the shop. And I thought it was brilliant because he could pull the van in, be like, I'm doing, I don't know, I'm doing crown molding today. I'm gonna be doing, you know, some some whatever trim trim carpentry work on the on the floorboards, and I'm gonna need these tools. He could just grab, he used this like uh like a uh what do they call it? The Thanos, like the with festivals in, grab those bins, throw them in the van. It's all right next to the door, go on the job site. Like I'm loosely like describing how he that mindset though, I was like, dude, brilliant. Because the amount of time you spend for like, even if you're a furniture maker for installs, like how many installs did we do before YouTube consumed every moment of our lives where we were just like, oh shit, did we grab this toy? And we don't have a van that's permanently set up, we don't have a trailer that's permanently set up. I think that is an underutilized storage mechanism for everyone. Yeah. DIY or home guy, period. I think I found as a homeowner that has every tool I could possibly ever want, is that the biggest problem is where the hell's the damn tool, and then getting the tool to whatever the hell I'm trying to do. Yeah. You know what I mean? So being like set up to do the work instead of set up to just have things pretty, much more of a fan of, I think, for most things. In my experience. A shitty experience. Which you guys love to comment on. They're like, I can't fully build anything. All he does is buy tools and fuck a bitch. Come at me, bro. Would you like photo cross car photo on your Instagram page? Specifically. My door's open.

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SPEAKER_04 22:52

I I feel like uh I I saw it was on the list here. I I think sometimes not open.

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Buckets As The Original Packout

SPEAKER_04 23:07

I feel like an underutilized storage thing. I saw it was on the list is like something that like we were talking about having like your tools divvied up for individual jobs, but you should have one, whether it's a toolbox or a bucket, where like you could do a little bit of everything with. Like I worked with this contractor for about a year and he had a bucket with like one of those liners on it. So it had like pockets on the outside. These things are cool. And in that bucket, there was like just uh stuff you could do a little bit of everything with like you do a little bit of electrical with it, uh like drills, drivers, some bits, like some basic plumbing tools, like just like a grab and go for any little fix. Like you're not gonna do a big job with it, but like the amount of times I heard Kevin be like, go get my bucket, like it's just over and over. And 90% of the time you could fix almost anything with that bucket.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

That was my whole early life. My dad only uses buckets with tools in it when he first goes into people's homes to like dissect whatever's going on with your well. And so it would always be we'd get to someone's house, go grab that blue bucket, yeah, and then I'd go down, go grab that white bucket, and I'd go grab the bucket, and it's like it has everything pipe. I mean, and it's filled to the brim. You have pipe wrenches, you have blowtorches, you have stuff for electrical, it just kind of all in there. It's organized, but you know, it's for them.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, for them. No other human can use it.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Grab that yellow nut driver and you're looking, you don't see anything of a yellow nut driver, and he's like, it's right there, you idiot.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

He's like, Oh, it was yellow in the 70s. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

It's like you can't even see the color on it. I'm being like, it's a real thing.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

The buckets are kind of like the OG pack outs because before modular storage, if you wanted to get like a bunch of things, hang with me here. If you wanted to argue, if you wanted to get like a bunch of cheap plastic like storage devices that like you know separate them by like type of job or this or that, go get like six buckets. That's why I even feel like the bucket liners were popular. What a great time that was. Three dollars, you got a little tool bucket, good to go, lightweight.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Dude, I think they're underrated for tool storage. You know what I've been real big into lately?

The Trailer Shop Idea

SPEAKER_01 25:01

People more on the DIY side, not the this end, but people building out trailers for organization. I've seen people instead of keeping all their tools in their garage, they'll buy a trailer, even if they're maybe not even doing like uh on-site work, and they'll just put all their stuff organized in a trailer so it's like just out of the house, kids can't get into it, whatever the case is.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Here's the kicker like that, you know what? Pure that's like pure genius. I'm trying not to cuss as much on the show, guys. I get you guys are telling me I swear. Um the genius to that is if you have the space to store the trailer, yeah, you're more than likely taking whatever tools you need anyway, setting them up, building whatever project, putting them back. Yeah, very rarely does anyone have like a home shop anymore that's doing DIY work. Like, there I know there's a ton of you out there that have like dedicated garage space to shops, and it's not or shopsman. It's not for or shopsman. That's not parking your car in. It's basically shop. So, like what I find myself doing is like I my shop's here. If I want to do anything at the house, it's an hour of setup, yeah, right, or like 30 minutes of setup for uh everything from saw horses to workbench to getting my tools out to plugging shit in to like putting a miter station. You're doing that already, you might as well just have that trailer set up so that all you're pulling out is like the table saw and the other thing. Everything else is kind of like set up on a wall. I wonder if my wife would let me park a trailer in our driveway. You can always park it here and then below.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

If you think John should get a trailer in his driveway, no, I think it's genius though.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Like you could you're 100% right. I'd get so much space back in my garage if I just had a trailer outside.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

I'll have to find the TikTok very similar to like the trailer you already have, maybe a little smaller. Can we get Ryan out there? Go find us a trailer. You can put the pack outs on the walls if you have packouts or whatever storage. Miter saw station that you can move around, then you can pull the table saw out on wheels.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Sam also wants to live in the back of like a his golf. Like he doesn't, he's like, I don't need all that. I could build glorious things with one zip, like sawzaw and a freaking screwdriver. Yeah, we know Sam. You're an artist.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

So I'm judging Joe and I because we want awesome trailers in our carways. Or another option, you could just turn a room and I ever tell you I turned a room into a wood shop. I should I wasn't allowed to. I we rented a house in South Carolina. You did tell me that in the house? In the house. It was a wild neighborhood. Like there was a guy across the street just building shit at all hours. The neighbor over here just with their wild dogs.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

The drinking guy?

SPEAKER_04 27:33

Yeah, Vic. Vic used to. I never I only saw I lived there a year and a half. I only saw Vic sober like three times. He was my neighbor.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

This guy would drink you into a coma.

SPEAKER_04 27:41

Oh yeah, they they drank different down there. Big Steelers fan though. He loved the Steelers. He was he would always come over and just like There we go. Yeah. But yeah, I turned a whole room into a wood shop. I actually flattened a 10-foot slab of oak in there. It was like a I did. I've got photos of it. Hold on, what floor? What floor of the house were we on? There was only one floor. Yeah. But it was like a 12 by 12 room, so it took up almost the entire room, and I built like a like a two by four like base for it, threw the slab down. I had this old Hitachi router with like an angle iron sled. Yeah, I flattened the whole thing. It was great.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Did you get the inspiration from the angle iron sled I did with Mike Montgomery on my YouTube channel? Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 28:20

My guy, big fan. Uh but I Kristen didn't think we're gonna get the security deposit back. I I went, I took a piece of the wall out because it was covered in dust and stuff. I took it to Sherwin Williams and like, match this. I repainted the whole room. They never knew. I got the whole security. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Can you do that? I'm in the ADD right now. Can you take a piece of a wall and they'll match the color of the painting? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I bought a bunch of holes in my drywall I need to patch in my apartment. Fist holes. I don't know the color of the paint.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

I understand that season two of House of the Dragon was not that good, Joe. You don't need to get that.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

No, like from I'm horrible at hanging stuff. You solved it last episode or two episodes ago, but I have holes behind my one monitor. Oh I mounted a monitor and it was too far over, and it was I had to pull it out and just move it over a little bit, and I just have this gaping hole I just see like this behind my uh my monitor every time I sit down on my desk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Wait, it's dude, well, it used to be a massive pain in the butt. You'd have to like go get the swap, like they couldn't just paint match on site now. They have like the scanners that they're gonna do. Well, I'll just cut a chunk out of the wall then, I guess, and just make sure you're stud to stud so you can at least make it an easy patch.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

Or you could pry up a little piece of your baseboard, take it out from under there. Baseboards are different color. No, I mean get the wall behind there.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. Wow, look at him thinking. He solved my little every problem.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

Anything. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Um that leads us into if you guys were building the perfect setup, we have different categories of people we're gonna go through. The basics. Um, we'll go through the weekend warrior, DIYer, mobile contractor, and then an unlimited dream budget setup. Hold on, Joe.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

I've been jealous since you guys busted them out. They're actually good. Screaming freedom. I'm over here. I'm like, I have no energy. These guys are just chugging freedom.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Thank goodness we now have energy due to our screaming freedom by first form. Limited supplies last.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

Wait, Joe, is this the last segment?

SPEAKER_01 30:24

No. No, got him okay. These are so good though. Do you want to do your snack before we move into this segment?

SPEAKER_00 30:29

We probably all should. Let me, while you pulled it out, I'll just. I'm pretty hyped on this guy. I'll just frame it. This trailer thing's got me geek. We should do it for a build. Our build channels might as well just be pissed into the wind anymore.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

What if we did five-minute, five-hour, five-day workshop builds? Listen. Listen, listen. Hear me out. Like people think I'm good here. Hear me out. That is not possible. Hear me out. Five-minute workshop? Yes. We buy everything off of T Timu or Veaver, and then it's just you unboxing it in five minutes. I don't know. Five hour would be something a little bit more intricate, and then five day is the trailer build. We have to build the structure that it's. Yeah, you guys would be fine. Stop having the limiting beliefs and hear out the dreams. Maybe I'll actually see maybe that we could buy the five-minute one and it's just assembly.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

The the fantas pop-up.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Alright, so if you Yes. Call, leave us a voicemail if you think that this is something we should do. That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Please subscribe while you're please don't call and ask me to build a shop in five minutes. Do that actually. Did you keep it one leg? Before Sam Snack segment, 63% of people that watch these videos aren't subscribed.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

I can believe it. We have a video with like 1.6 million views on YouTube, and you guys aren't anywhere close to subscribe, and all you do is complain about how I don't build any shows in the comments.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Wrong channels.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

We have three channels, guys. I can't build on every channel. Also, I'm getting old. Shit. Maybe we should hire another builder, Sam. What do you think? Do it. Should we turn it into a series and a challenge? Like what? Like we get like 10 contestants. We Mr. Beast it. See if they could. We've talked about it. You said you didn't like that before. Well, timing's times change, Joe. We can easily I'm worn down. We pitched you on the concept of chopped but woodworking. No, no, no, not that. I mean, and we get 10 contestants and they they we we wind it down to one final contestant that gets hired to work here. They don't build against us.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

So essentially, what I said, except they don't win money, they win a job. Yeah, but they don't build against me or him. Exactly. No, they weren't in the chopped idea either.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Oh, I'm thinking of beat Bobby Flay.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Yeah, no, we're talking about chopped. Like you sit there at a table and you just judge people's building for four rounds. And then the winner gets something. Or I knew a reality I could say.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

What was like kitchen nightmares? More uh bar rescue, just go to people's shows.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Bar rescue would be hilarious. John on the van, like in surveillance cameras.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

That dude, uh John Taffer, he's sick. I would love to just hang out with him for like two days.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

First guest on the episode, we can get him on, maybe. Maybe he'll come join us.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

He I love the short clips of him on other people's shit because he gives like the lowdown and he cusses a ton. He'll be like, I walked in there and this cheeseburger was disgusting. And I'm like, yes, it was true. The whole show was real. Don't you take that dream for me? I also would like to hang out with Adam Richmond if we're talking like food shows. But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Pula, we're shutting it down. She's spitting his drink. We're shutting the bar down. What do you have for a snack today?

Snack Segment Homemade Kimchi

SPEAKER_04 33:25

This is homemade kimchi I got from the strip district.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

I it's hold on a second. It's still fermented. Why are we eating someone else's homemade kimchi? Well, I mean, I don't know. Do you see how much air's in this? Look at that.

SPEAKER_04 33:40

I brought this in initially last week. It seems like it's continued to ferment in here. Which is glorious for the microbiome. I bought so much, I bought kimchi. I got some of this uh uh nori that's like wasabi flavored and something else. And the woman was like, You like this? What's a nori? It's uh like seaweed, but they dry it out and they cover like a little bit of sea salt, wasabi. She's like, You like the spice, don't you? He was like, Oh yeah. She's like, wake you up. And I'm like, Yeah, I hope so. Let's see what pop oh, wow. There we go, Joe. Have you ever had kimchi?

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Joe's never had kimchi. Oh, I've had it. I don't like it. You don't like it? Why? Yeah, I'm just I don't like the kick. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Smells like some good kimchi. Oh, yes, it's it's fresh. I do love how like Sam will go out of his way to buy kimchi that's homemade by who knows who, somewhere in the city of Pittsburgh, and then wants us all to share the jar. Well, I don't want to have to fork it. I didn't want to have little bowls of it set out here because we just went to the bottom. The bowls now, you goofball. Uh hold on.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Do you want all three of us just like? Yeah, let's just we're gonna we're gonna fork the kimchi. Let's just do one.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Get it kimchi. Too much to get the bowls. Well, I didn't want him to. I mean, he's gonna take this home and he's gonna relish this for months because that's how long you eat this stuff. You can actually replenish your kimchi. That's one of the cool things about it, is you don't have to like. Very normal kimchi noise. All right. It's subtle, it's not too spicy. You're not gonna work.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Yeah, you want to grab it now.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

It actually is subtle. Yeah, it's not too bad at all. Very clean. Got a very clean taste, in my opinion. Right? Mm-hmm. Think about adding uh throwing that on some like, I don't know, Joe chicken and rice, something that's typically pretty bland. I'm a fan.

SPEAKER_04 35:40

Maybe that could that be our consumable? Could we start making shop kimchi? Shop kimchi?

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Well, she's working on fermented hot sauces right now. Uh, I would love a kimchi.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

You know, I just don't like the aftertaste it gets you with. There isn't one.

SPEAKER_04 35:56

Yeah, I don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

It's like a palate cleanser. That's a super clean, you can definitely tell that's homemade compared to if you buy like I have the kimchi from Costco. It's like spicy, it's super piggy. But it sticks around. You can definitely tell it was on a boat for like at least a year before it got here. That's where it ferments, ferments on the boat. All right, so a couple things. One, fermented foods, phenomenal for your gut. So if you guys, you know, if you feel bloated, probably those 18 beers you're drinking a night, one reason, but two could be are a little backed up in there. Kim Chi is great for that. Uh, it's essentially just cabbage. That one has some daikon in it, I think. Yeah. So that's why I eat it. But also like pickles, uh, sauerkraut, those are all like in the same kind of a vein. That's just like, you know, different variety for it. Uh so that's why you might want to eat it. He's like suffering over that.

SPEAKER_04 36:44

Joe does never notice when Joe Joe do a Robert De Niro face. Whenever he's like pursing his lips, it looks exactly yeah. You can't do it on command, but sometimes I'll look over with like that's like Robert De Niro casino. Eat the gimke.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

I did uh did watch The Irishman recently. I love The Irishman. That's you know, every movie every time it's something we could get along with.

SPEAKER_04 37:05

Yeah, everyone complains about like, oh, I couldn't stay awake during that.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

I'm like, it's a great movie. You just have to just watch it. You've got to be into like that world though. You gotta be in the mob movies, you gotta be in the kind of like it's a long, drawn-out story.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

You know what I watched instead of going to see Morgan Wallen, The Gentleman. What the movie or the movie?

SPEAKER_00 37:22

What's the I've never seen the movie movie? Matthew McConaughey. There's a show too that's Dude. The show's good. Such a good fing movie. So I I watched the show first and then heard about the movie. I haven't watched it. I'll check that out.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

McConaughey, it is like there's some iconic scenes in it they regard as his best ever in film. What? Yeah, like his acting in like the back. I'm saying like some of the it's not the whole entire movie, but you've seen Wolf of Wall Street.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Have you seen you know he did that on the whim? Yeah. Didn't even ask? Yeah, dude. He was like all the stories of McConaughey and his acting methods are wild because he act like you'd think he's like a method actor, and the way he goes about it, he's just he's not. He's just McConaughey.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Like doing cool shit. There's a scene and he talks about like he's not emotional about money. It's part of the storyline. It is such a highly regarded scene that he's people always talk about with him. It is so good. I'll check it out.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Is this an older years?

SPEAKER_01 38:23

A couple years old. I mean, it's it's a little confusing. You have to really be locked in watching it because it's like uh it's it's like telling a story while it's like actually happening. It's like weird the way they shot it, but interesting. Very highly recommend.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

If you guys didn't hear Morgan Wallen canceled his second show this weekend, Joe and Sam had backstage passes. I didn't get the invite, but obviously neither did they. Morgan went a little too hard on Friday night, supposedly, and then they uh were calling for tornadoes on Saturday that didn't even turn into a rainstorm. Pittsburgh weather is a trip.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Why don't they just hosted a PPG somewhere indoors?

SPEAKER_00 39:02

The paints arena can't hold that many. No, twenty-five? Really? The PPG's not that big, you know. PNC holds 40 something, I think. 60 maybe on the floor.

unknown 39:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Oh, yeah, wow. With standing room. And when they do the floor, you can get up to like another three or four thousand people on the floor. Yep. Anyway. Back to storage.

Snap-On And Modular Storage Debate

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Not as enjoyable to talk about, but still fun.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

It's like a way harder. We can just get off storage, man. We can just leave it. Well, so I've dude, I'm I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

I wanna I just literally wanted to get into two things on the storage side before we punt this idea. Because I think that they're pretty divisive. Is one, snap-on toolboxes. Two full-blown life dedication to the packo. How are we feeling about let's just go with a snap on, which is a tried truth? I mean, we've seen them, we've used them, we've touched them. Yeah. They're so good. Snap-on toolboxes? Have you ever touched one? I saw one. You thought one up? You mean like the ones that are just in like the big I wanted to go with like a bunch of like I wanted to say some real lewd shit.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

They're all that is like it's like the husky.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

They're big, they're big storage boxes. It's like the first time you touch it.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

Do they make modular storage? Joe. No. This is I was asking. I know, I'm asking if they make modular also. I know they make the toolboxes.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

I don't know if they make so well done. Everything is so smooth, so perfect, so well made. Like they give they give us they cost an arm and a leg. They're more expensive than your house, like in your car. And uh they're just so nice. Yeah, I've seen these. I don't know if they made portable stores. They don't. They don't need to. That's their portable. I mean, I'm kidding. That thing fully loaded out will roll around like butter. It's nuts.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

Why they have it on wheels too. But a motor leaves their shop, goes to another one, they just roll right out.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Right out the door. Everything's bolted all together, color matched, all of the like the wiring and it they're elite. They're elite. And uh what you see is somehow that industry is still surviving where like they can pull up to your shop in a truck and people will go give their paycheck to buy tools.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

What's the difference? Well between icon and snap on just the quality.

SPEAKER_00 41:24

Is there that much of a lot of people? Our icon toolboxes are easily our nicest.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

I would say. Yeah. I feel like Snap-on still stays alive too, just because if you're someone that is like a legitimate like automotive tech and you you know you break a wrench or something and you need it that day, you're gonna get it that day. You know, it's like oh super fast because they're gonna have a truck there.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Yeah, they'll send the truck out. Oh, yeah. He they're down the street at the auto spot. They're selling a snap on truck near my parents' house. I think I mentioned it to you. With the business or just the truck? I don't know. I'd be curious.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Because what happens is they'll franchise, some people can franchise their route. And then they'll sell it, and they'll sell the route and the truck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

That'd be interesting. I wonder what you could get snap on tools for at cost. Like I wonder what they sell.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

I don't know if it's a I don't know if it's a wholesaling model. I think you I think you like, I don't know. It'd be interesting to look into. Anyone here familiar with the model? Because uh I don't I don't think you buy I think you at lease or you like uh stage the tools and then you get the keep the cut on top. Oh that's interesting, yeah. I don't think it's a tradition traditional. You'd be because you'd be looking at a quarter million dollars in tools in your truck. Like that's such a liability. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Could you imagine that driving around? You stage a hit on a snap-on truck, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

You that it happens. You guys are driving their lives out of the room. And girls, there's some chicks that roll snap-on trucks, they've got some pretty wild social channels.

SPEAKER_04 42:48

Have you guys ever seen Free Manny, the snap-on guy?

SPEAKER_05 42:51

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Oh, yeah. So the guy that pops up the price. That was I that was like one of the it was such a random thing. I was so happy. I was looking at a free he has an Instagram, I was looking at a free manny video, and then I looked at uh clicked on his followers, like, oh, free manny's following me? That was like the biggest, I'm like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

He still is? Yeah, yeah. Let's check right now. Free man, let's see if he's still. He's lying, Joe. You think free manny's following me? Manny's buying some crazy expensive shit on the daily on the Snap on track.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

This guy?

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

Joker. Oh yeah, Free Manny 1980. Let's go. You're not even following him back while you're an asshole. That's Manny right there. It's his following.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

No, no, no, no. That's not the real one.

SPEAKER_04 43:33

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Well, he's not even buying shit.

SPEAKER_04 43:36

Well, this is his personal one. The Snap-on guy has his own, but this is Manny's account. He's he's trying he's trying to discredit my free Manny follow, Joe. Do you know Manny? I'll give credit where Crazy isn't.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

No, I don't know Manny.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Oh, Joe. So, yeah, um what I'm curious about, and this will be from the audience because we've got a lot of more automotive listeners than we have automotive experts here. Is the snap on high? Hype's still what it was. I got a buddy, he passed RIP tank. I've talked about him before. Um, he had these beautiful custom maroon snap-on toolboxes loaded out, all snap-on tools. I remember like this dude, we'd be out like drinking, and I'm like, hey, you coming to meet us? And he's like, I'm driving to Ohio to buy a snap-on wrench on like eBay or some shit that's like the fourth piece in a set that they discontinued because he needed it. It was like, that's like that's like the life when you get into it. Now he was working on heavy machinery, he was doing custom built trucks, like he that he had more money in his tools than he had in his house. Um but I'm wondering if that's still a thing, right? Like because there's other like icon, for instance, and there's brands that are like coming up with some good shit. You know, there's I don't know if anyone's doing the lifetime that they do.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

I don't think the lifetime works as we thought it does, by the way. For snap-on?

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Yeah. No, you gotta just it it I think it only goes with first owner. It's like pretty much any lifetime warranty.

SPEAKER_01 44:55

Yeah, because we did that military video. Yeah, that military video we got chewed up in the comments about. You actually have a couple snap-on tools that are new.

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Like not new. Yeah, that tap and die set. Yeah, a couple mallets.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

Oh, the mallets. You didn't you cut one of those open? No, yeah. We cut another one. We cut a woodpecker mallet open.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

I remember when I was a kid, there were still Sears around, and Sears still honored their craftsman lifetime warranty. It wasn't as good though. You got like a either like a new Taiwanese wrench or something.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

I told you about the glory of Sears. You guys are like this is like the shitty part of being young. You used to be able to walk in Sears, dude. It was like a rave. Oh, yeah. People everywhere, glorious tools everywhere. I don't remember Sears. You could buy a mattress, you could buy a table saw, you could buy some wrenches, batteries. There was no groceries. They this wasn't full Walmart quite yet. Yeah. You could get an outfit for church, an outfit for work, all of it.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

One place. It's all gone now. Even like they own Kmart. Oh, I forgot to tell you, when I went to the Virgin Islands, there's a Kmart there. One of the last three on the planet was that I walked in, it was like a time capsule. I felt like I was in 1995. I was like, oh my god. It was literally identical to how I remembered Kmart as a Kmart. How many pairs of vintage jeans did you buy? I didn't buy anything there. I know. Actually, no, I did buy one. I bought a coffee mug, bought a virgin mug coffee mug. No, I've got three more of replacements. Three more figlets? Yeah, yeah. That's why I wasn't even upset when that thing broke.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Alright, so let it snap on. Is it worth the hype? Should we do an unscrewed video? Do you think it would do?

SPEAKER_01 46:30

I mean, that's an expensive video.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

It is. I don't think it would do well unless we gave it away.

unknown 46:34

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Um, even though Ryobi's not doing very well with it. We bought every line of garden product. But I will say when we bought them all at first, Joe, they that was a slow, slow burner. Um, flip side, pack out. We just did the Mother's Day challenge on Unscrewed. We've all been pack-out fans for a while. I gotta go to, I'm going to like a Home Depot event in a week or two. They're probably gonna put me in a pack out for a week to live in or some shit. They're like, it's getting incredible the amount of versatility in the pack out line and all these like modular stored, like those wall hanging things. I hung them up in my house. I'm kind of in love with them. I'm like the fact that I can just like snap and put them on, like wherever move stuff, and then I don't have to like be married to like like a French cleat system, you're sliding things for like a mile to sometimes to get them off. If you want them to lock on the bottom, if not, you just kind of like drop it in there and then it flims around and blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Their quality is it's so solid. The only thing that upsets me about it, I know there's no reality where this would happen. It's like I'm fine with you guys having like the elevated pricing for the boxes and everything, but it's like just make the accessories cheap. Like if they had the wall hangers and the little stuff cheap. Affordable, afford whatever, whatever word we need to use to lower that number they charge you at the end.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Comedic. Yeah, you got like a an all-plastic drill holder, and you're like, this is $90. Yeah, it's like you made this for three. Three bucks. I guarantee it. It's a it's just a piece of plastic.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

It has Milwaukee on it, though. They could sell for whatever they want.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

People are gonna buy it. I even have one of their the only reason I bought it, they make a pack out like uh insulated uh mug. Mug. It snaps on top. Yeah, the only reason I bought it, it was like a yellow sticker for like nine dollars. They usually retail for 30. And there's no reason it should be that much. I'm like, this is the same as like every other insulated cup I have. Like and it's not as good as like Yeti or Tervis.

SPEAKER_00 48:23

No, and you can't, it's so thick you can't fit it in most cup holders, you know. We're not getting into cups pissing me off.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

I think they're they're overpriced, but what are you gonna do? I mean, like they're just the best on the market.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

They're well that I would what yeah, are they? Yeah. Because I'm not gonna lie, personally, if they had more accessibility, I prefer the Tanos. Like the box that Festival comes in. That's actually a company that has the sustainer? Yeah. I prefer the sustainer. That's insane. I think that's a and it might be because I'm a psycho, but they just look cleaner, they stack cleaner, they don't have any accessories. But you gotta take them all off, you gotta undo the latches, like same with the they have the drawer systems now, they they got a lot of versatility in those. I'll spray them.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

They're just untapped and on American. I think those sustainer boxes, even though they're fine, I think they are the most overrated thing really in the world. The only reason I'll say like they are great. I feel like they shine with like in-shop stores. Like I love that we have drawers for all that stuff, but if you're taking those on a job site, they're like the plastic is just so thin. Like it has that twist lock where it's like there's no gasket or anything. I'm just saying, like, my pack outs, like they've lasted for over like six years at this point. And I guess when have you broken a sustainer? I have when we don't think you've never bought one. But like when have you-I I I've you my dad has tons of sustainers and they're not broken, they're not broken, but I wouldn't say they're like super nice or versatile, they're just plastic boxes. Oh, you the only I if they were not associated with Festel, like or some of the other brands they partner with, I feel like it's like it's fine. It's a very, very and this is the one time I'm gonna speak ill of like German design things. It's a very like, is it German? I'm assuming it is. Yeah, Festel is. Well, is the Thanos? Look up if the Thanos boxes. It's very German. It's like the design's very subtle, it's very simple, and they're like stubborn, where it's like we're gonna change very few things about it.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah, there I I mean I I'll fight against that. I think that they're so versatile they don't need change. And also, like, I've taken those on job sites and I find them considerably easier to transport than uh than than the packets. Packouts cool, like you feel cool, but they're not as durable. The packouts are what are you doing to your packets?

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Like I'm just like Germany. Germany. Your exhibition is a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 50:55

I'll give you a prime example. Like, there were times where I would have so many packouts I couldn't have the Tonno cover in my truck, and it would be raining out. Literally, they're gasketed, they're water resistant. Like it would rain. I'd get my tools home, open that box up, it's bone dry. Those things aren't like there's no gasket. The the construction of it feels flimsy too.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

The plastic's like I'm not saying it's like a great, I'm not saying it's the highest quality thing ever. I'm just saying, like, I personally think I I like them more. I like they're smaller, they're easier to move around. You you're you're they don't have the they solidify.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

It's easier to move around, though? I mean, I don't know about that one. We half of them have wheels, you could just wheel around the Milwaukee's. They serve a great $300, $400 to get that, Joe. Okay, but they make a they make a dolly for the Thanos. Are you just buying sustainers just to buy them? Most people probably aren't buying them just to buy them. That's what I'm saying. They're underutilized. People don't know. You have to spend a thousand dollars in your firstborn to buy a festival item.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

I feel like you didn't even first off, go sit over there in your in your corner of your parents before you come at me for this.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

You know, it's true.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

Go, I agree, but go look at the Thanos individually as they sell them. Who is buying that individually? Who says to themselves, I want to go buy one of them. See how much your detail. There's a lot of people that use it. Okay, I'm sure. And it's underutilized.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

But I'm sure it's less than the people just wanting to buy tool storage like a pack-out or a DeWald Tuff system.

SPEAKER_00 52:14

But that's what they are, though. People just don't know they're available because they're not in big box stores.

SPEAKER_04 52:18

I feel like they they are an elevated, like I feel like they serve a purpose as being an elevated box to hold your tool in in the shop. It's better than whenever you get like those like bags. Like you'll buy like a like a Makita saw and they give you the bag. I'd much rather have this, but its purpose ends there. It's strictly just storage in your shop.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

It's a nice little added luxury to have, but no way, like they can't. I don't know if they can see this on screen. We get complained about for that all the time. You take that directly on the job site, pull it right out of the drawer. Nobody's putting packouts into drawer storage in their shop, only on trailers, only in vans. People that you're not pulling a drawer with the packouts on. We did that in ours for just our bits and stuff. Yeah, but you're not doing it for tool storage, you're pulling the tool out. Yeah, but I'm just saying these they're great, they're great, but I think they're underutilized. I think that if you're not thinking about it, you're you're doing yourself a disservice. I feel like the only dollies. For $245. You don't even get storage with it. Go buy storage stories. Look at the price. You're only looking at Festal 2. The brand Panos sells all of their shit on their own site, unlabeled, unbranded, in a variety of colors, I should be.

SPEAKER_04 53:32

I feel like the sustainers are great strictly if you were like a high-end Finnish carpenter. Like 100%. You're not. I feel like if you're an adult. No, like you're never like for example it's a great option. I can't believe you're disregarding it as a great option. So if you're a plumber, you'd rather buy a bunch of Thanos boxes than pack outs?

SPEAKER_01 53:50

No. Here we go. Only $400 for a packet.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

That's a that's a that's a pretty legit dolly.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

It is a nice dolly, but still.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

You're acting like the pack out is not $400 for the anything on wheels. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

Yeah, but you're it's getting stored with the wheels. It will. It will.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

It will? Yes. What? Any day of the week. Bro, you know the festival stuff we have is the nicest. And this is uh this is elite manufacturing as well.

SPEAKER_04 54:16

It's it's German manufacturing. It is subtle, it is gonna work as intended. It is not trying to be like above and beyond, it's just trying to be consistent. And it is no dude.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

I think I think if you're not considering the sustainer market for your storage solution, you're you're doing yourself a disservice.

SPEAKER_01 54:33

I'm gonna be honest, I think you're the first person to ever inform me that you could just buy this shit like this. I'm saying it's underutilized.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

It's underutilized. Go to the sustainers. Just go to sustainer on that list. Just go to stacks.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

Stacks?

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Right there.

SPEAKER_01 54:50

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

Five boxes, same price as a festal. Or excuse me, same price as a pack out on wheels. One one pack out.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Shitty wheels. You don't even know. You meant that's a dolly. Come on. What do you mean I don't know? What have you ever used one of those? For lighting. What do you think? What have I ever used? I haven't even used one to call it shitty. If you've never taken a dolly into someone's home, a floor dolly like that, a caster. What are you wheeling shit into someone's home for work on one of these?

SPEAKER_04 55:18

You know another advantage? The packets.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

You're taking this across gravel, across grass on hills, you're stuck to basements. You're certainly indoors.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

You're taking it upstairs. The packouts you roll upstairs.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

I'm not rolling shit upstairs, first off. I'm not marring their steps. I'm picking it up and voicing it up.

SPEAKER_04 55:33

Not in not in a nice stairs, but you're rolling outdoors.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

So now we're judging people stairs.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

I'm sure this has its place and it's phenomenal, but like in certain circumstances.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

Look at how tidy the shop it's in is. Yes, it's a fake shop. That's a studio.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

Who lies their comp kids like this? That's actually pretty elite.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. Knock that shop, guys. Jeez. It's an underutilized option that I think you're doing a disservice if you're not considering it. There's there's look at how many spins you get. You can't act like price to price. It's not up there. I can get that same head. Like that's a great price.

SPEAKER_04 56:09

Same height as that.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Here's where I'll agree with you. Getting this for 30 bucks is incredible. Incredible. Oh, it's a time.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

You fit one battery in there, Jeff, only 30 bucks. What are like their XX?

SPEAKER_00 56:23

So they're 100 bucks. Okay. That's their large, that's their double XL. That's that thing is we don't even have one in the shop. It's got two things on it. That's for holding like their jet pack that they make.

SPEAKER_04 56:34

You know another thing I'll say about painsaw. Yeah, but I'll say they serve more of a purpose before number one, the pack-outs, and two, before people got like lasers and CNCs and stuff where they can make their own foam inserts. Because there's so many companies that make inserts for the pack outside.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

I'm not saying it's better. I think that's the funny part. Oh, you don't think it's better? What do you say? I just think it's a viable option compared to. Oh I there's many I'd put a button. I'm taking I like it more because I like the way they stack. I've been on in the festival line for over a decade. More installs on jobs that I can do that I'm taking things. I was throwing them in sustainers before the pack out system existed. Once I got into pack out, I actually got sloppier because I didn't have to be as tidy. But I think it's a great option.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

I will say it's pretty cool. You could customize these colors.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

We should do like a limited run of shop shades or something in sustainers, the little mini ones. That'd be so you can do the colors. I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

Yeah, look at that. 10 bucks. We would just have to like kind of dramatically outfit a corner of the shop. And we tried to work out a deal with the company, and they they they just wanted they didn't want to come to terms. But um I yeah, I just think they're super tidy, they're clean, they're easy to go in and out of the shop. Packouts are definitely more robust, they're definitely beefier, they're definitely more adaptable to being like a plumber and electrician or being like HVAC or a pipe fitter or something. Totally agree. They're like a big, bulky, it's like it's like buying American versus European.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

Yeah, it really is.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

You're big, you're bulky, you're built, you know, for for a different job. But I don't think they're a bad option.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

Shop shades?

SPEAKER_00 58:10

An orange, Joe?

SPEAKER_01 58:11

That's the only yellow daffodil yellow shade pumpkin. This is orange. Wait, that looks identical. What? All right. The TV color is probably horrific. Uh oh. Sorry, I didn't even think about that.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

I so I don't even know where the hell this conversation's going or if we're anywhere close to the other.

SPEAKER_01 58:27

Well, where it's going is to us go into the classic tier list and we're gonna put it put it to the end.

Rapid-Fire Storage Tier Rankings

SPEAKER_01 58:32

I'm glad this conversation happened. I feel like it livened up the storage cover the second.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

I was like, oh my god, we can disagree on something.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

Let's jump on this. We're gonna rank every piece of storage possible for your home or the job site. First up, the bucket storage.

SPEAKER_04 58:46

S tier. I think honestly, A tier. That's good. I could live with that.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

Uh the sustainer from Festal. It's not from Festal! This one S tier. This is one's from Festal. This one is put it on the A tier.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

It's A tier. I will it's not S tier. Uh Pegboard C. Get away from them. I'll now I will say we have um wall control is a company. They gave us a bunch of board back in the day. Like they're uh they're a metal peg and slap board. Pretty solid stuff. Um definitely don't go with like your traditional like homoseap pegboard. You wear those holes out, everything starts breaking. Yeah, you just spend the extra money.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

What about the DeWalt Tuff system?

SPEAKER_00 59:30

I think it's really good. Personally, I'd say it's A tier. A tier? Don't think that there's anything wrong with it. It was shitty V1. Gen 1 was real, real brittle, but they have got a lot of cool stuff. I actually really, really like the like big ones that they have on those like their own dollies. Yeah, the giant ones. Those are good. We don't have any of them, but we've played with them.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

Uh what about Rigid's storage system?

SPEAKER_04 59:55

I I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I I have a few of their things. I actually really like them. They had the wall hangers before even Packout was doing it. I've I would put it A tier. I've They're the RD of Packout. Yeah, they're solid. And you're gonna get them a little cheaper than the Packouts, too?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Yeah, they don't have all the bells and whistles. No, and their locking mechanism isn't as good as Packout. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

Uh Husky, one of their uh bigger toolboxes, the one you have in your home, the mechanics one.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

It's a good B tier toolbox. I have three or four of them. I've I've been given some, I bought some. They don't have a lot of like drawer accessibilities. They got ball-bearing slides on most of them. They're mostly made with some pretty decent interior, whatever. They don't rack a lot. Their tops are solid. They don't, you know, they're fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

What about the just the classic Huskies you see on the floor, the $399 ones at Home Depot? Same type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

They just put a different color on them. B tier. They literally don't have a difference. I'm telling you, like, I love the look of that like all black ones that the husky make, but they're the same thing. What about Milwaukee's vertical toolbox? That's an A-tier toolbox.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

This one's black, but we'll call it that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Yeah, like we have one. We've had one for a long ten years now. I've had that toolbox, I think. Yeah. I think solid.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

What about foam cutouts storage for drawers?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

I mean, it's awesome. It's overrated. Yeah. I'd probably say B. B or C. I don't know about yeah, probably probably B or C. The problem I have with it is it's really well done if you are a really meticulous person. So you can either send them to the factory and get them cut out, or you're gonna lay everything out, you're gonna take a photo, you're gonna put it in your laser cutter, your CNC, you're gonna have them cut. If you're doing it by hand, it looks like shit. Doesn't function as well. And the one thing I really don't like about it is once you make it, you can't change it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:32

I feel like it has to be for like if you are a mechanic or something where it's like these tools are gonna stay consistent for the most part for the next like five years.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:39

I see them a lot in engineers' workflows because they're so particular about where things go and what tools you need, and the tools are very important for labeling and stuff. Yeah. Um, but like you get a lot of dead space in the drawer, and you're one and done. You can't make any adjustments. You gotta buy a new tool, you gotta get a whole new foam pad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

What about wall-mounted cabinets? Pre-built, like those plastic pieces of shit. Uh like yeah, the husky ones we have. Garbage, throw them away.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

D tier. Dun dun dun. They're they're all okay. Different than a floor cabinet. If you're hanging that shit on the wall, it's gotta be more rigid because it has no floor to support it. It's only supported by the back mount. And those chintzy plastic or thin metal cabinets always rack, they're always junk. You start closing doors, things start coming out of alignment. You don't get that on the floor because the floor is supporting it and the back support. We have two areas of support. They're better on the floor, don't put the wall hangers on them.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

Yeah, what about the uh wall-mounted tool holders? We have them here for the line.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

What do you think, Sam?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:50

I it I want to say B. Like it's they're not they're not the best, but they're definitely not bad. And like for certain tools that you're grabbing like all the time on demand, like I think John said that earlier about having like open air like tool storage. I think some things don't belong in a drawer if you're using them very frequently. You're talking small tools or big tools? Like just small hand tools, like that little magnet rack they have.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

Oh yeah, that's garbage. Like, throw that shit away. I uh you're giving it too much credit. Um, I'm much I'm a fan of those for like big like shovels, rakes, outdoor lawn garden, garage storage, get all that stuff on a wall. It's nice and clean, it has somewhere to live, it's not just in a pile in the corner. You know, um I'm I'm a fan of it. I'm a fan of like the wall tool storage for that. Um but I don't need my screwdrivers, you know, picked on a magnet on the wall. Uh that kind of shit, I feel like gets really cluttered and it looks like shit. So see? I could live with C.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

Uh desktop tool chests.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:52

S tier. Come on, they're hilarious. Like the little US general boxes. Ryan found a Steelers one at Lowe's. Give me a reason. It's just a fun novelty, number one. It's built with the same ball-bearing drawer slides.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

I think we're talking about two different things. You're thinking about like the little gimmicky one.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

We're talking about the ones that you could just throw like the husky ones you could put on a workbench.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:14

I'm talking about that one with like the drawers and the top.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Oh, we're not talking about the little guys, the ones that just go on top of a workbench.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Uh you put it wherever. I have no I have no love or affinity for that. Give me a tier list.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

C. I agree. It's a C. I think I prefer to have the bench space than I would to have that toolbox.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:31

Okay. What about I don't even know how to explain this. They're like the um almost like the French cleat walls with the little containers. They like kind of where the how our screws are on the walls over there, the nails. You have all the nails organized. What are those called? Oh, those little plastic.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:44

They're junk. But if you've got zero, plastic wall containers.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Plastic wall containers.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

They're better than zero. Yeah. C tier. But like I would not be ideating or building out your shop to have those as a permanent solution because they get busted, broken, lost, junked so fast.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:04

Well, and another thing that sucks about them, especially if you're in especially if you're in like a wood shop, is that they're out in the open. Like we just redid both of ours that we have, and we had to clean every single one out because they were just covered in dust. And unless you want to do that like once every couple months, you know, you're better off throwing it in a drawer or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

What about the uh portable um well hold on, pause real are there three of those that are the same thing we just talked about? Yeah, you can ignore these. Okay, because I was I just clumped all those together. I clumped that, the plastic bins in like the box, and then like, yeah, those I put all those together. Those are good start, yeah. Terrible long.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

I don't know what this one is.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:41

Now, let me throw a preface in there. Our fireball tools rolling storage rack that is those on crack, excuse me, on steroids. Cracks bag, steroids are good. Uh it's huge, it's open, but I feel like we haven't found as much problems with dust or or uh Uh organizational issues and whatnot, that whole cabin that kind of rolls around the metal shop, everything gets stored in it. That thing's sick. Yeah. Wood shop wise, probably wouldn't want that because of all the you know sawdust chips and debris and whatnot, but worth keeping in mind if you're in a metal or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:15

Uh the Milwaukee, or we can use any brand's flat pack.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

You mean like the ones that the pack out. Only one brand pack out.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

Everyone else saw we could do the we could do the pack out, pack out flat packs.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

I'm just gonna say modular storage in general, S tier, because we didn't really get into it, but there's some the flat packs because we're gonna do the the Oh, we're doing the flat packs separate.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:38

Yeah, flat packs are separate from he's talking about like bits.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

Oh, I would say honestly, S tier stuff. I love those are those have been I was buying those before I bought anything else from Milwaukee. Milwaukee had those bins before they had the pack out, and I was buying those first because I think they're great. No one else can really touch them because Milwaukee's the only one with the gasket and a good lock. Everyone else effed up the lock or the gasket. And it's so nice, they have little removable trays. I haven't tried them all either, though. Oh really? Maybe a good short every flat pack Milwaukee pack. Tucker! Tucker. We'll do a short on that because I want to try the Klein. We haven't tried like the Flex. We haven't tried the there's a bunch of brands that started making those. Yeah, I haven't seen Flex inside of Lowe's.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:19

I'm kind of well, Flex is done at Lowe's now. They're out of there. They had like, I feel like they had the most underrated modular storage. They had like little hydraulic lifts in their boxes and stuff. Like oh, it was so nice. Gas hinges? Yeah. What? Yeah, like everyone slept on Flex. We should all be ashamed that we didn't buy Flex tools and we had the chance because now they're just gone to the upper room.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

This guy, this guy would be stroking off flex for the next decade. It was so good. You're like a porter cable like original fan.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:47

OG OG porter cable cable. It was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:51

Mopar!

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

I didn't throw Mopar in there. I did not do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

Give them to us, Joe. Last but not least, just general modular storage. Milwaukee packout. I don't think you can throw them in a general category. I think there's only one or two that would be S tier worthy. Last but not least, the Milwaukee packout.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

S tier. Unfortunately, it's S tier. No, it's fortunate. It's it's an awesome. If you own more Milwaukee packouts than anybody, I know it's an awesome product. I'm busting balls. I would put modular storage in the A tier though, because I don't think a lot of the other brands um are up to snuff with with packouts. Packout just thinks of like a lot more shit. They have interior options, exterior options. They have strap shit on there, strap shit to it. You know, like the Makita one we have, really nice. It's enormous. They thought of some cool shit, like getting it in the truck bed. They they fixed that problem, right? But like they're still missing on some other shit. I think the DeWalt's the same thing. They've got a lot of good features, but nothing that's really like you're not if you have the choice between the two, and unless you're in the one line or the other, I think you're taking Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

Yeah, pack-outs are so popular too. There's all the third-party accessories, like the 3D printed ones and stuff. They're not going to make it for the more obscure boxes, but pack-outs are so many universal things.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:03

So I would say, yeah, Milwaukee S tier, everyone else, pretty much A tier. Even like Ryobis. Like the Ryobis aren't bad. I don't know about that. The link system's kind of funky. But think about the options comparatively, like I'd rather get a bucket?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:20

You're going bucket? No, I'd just say if I had to get a cheaper modular storage. I'm just saying if I had to get a cheaper modular storage, I'd just get the rigid one. Yeah, it's sometimes much cheaper though. I'll give you that. Bucket is a lot. They fixed the link system a little bit. It was real bad when it came out where people could just like knock it over. Like it was yeah, it was a weird weird stuff. This is solid.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:45

We didn't we haven't been flunking a lot of shit lately.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:48

No, just that one poor cat.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:50

Is it like the summer of love here with our S with our tear ring inside?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

Is he rubbing off on me? If only we had the uh sustainers on here, the general one.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:59

Yeah, they're in A tier.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:04

They're all of us.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

You want me to get it? I can take it from this website. We can put it on there. It's the biggest sustainer they sell.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:12

I don't know how you can put modular or anything on there and not put sustainer in A-tier. I think they're probably great.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:17

Look at even the environments and the photos. Like they look great staged in like a really, really nice, clean environment. I think that's where they are meant to live. They are not job site ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

There, unless it's like I said, you're a high- I feel like your identity behind job site is like I need to be able to take it, throw it off a 10-foot building, punt it, stand on it, take a shit on it, open it, use the tool that's completely cleaned for one second and then filthy after I use it. 100%. Throw it in there with no care at all how it's thrown in, and then throw it on the road while I'm driving. Like you're like, that's what job site is. 100%. Yeah. I I fully I'll I'll stand on that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:55

Yeah. I want you know I just don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:57

A sustainer would make sense if you had. I I would agree with you on a sustainer if like you had like a van decked out with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:04

If you're making sustainers in trucks, like I've only ever driven trucks like for years.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

Like I said, the only time I ever see that many sustainers on a job site, you're a high-end finish carpenter, you're a custom cabinet maker. Otherwise, they're not.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:17

It's because everyone else doesn't know you can buy just sustainers. No, that's not why. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:22

That could be a barrier to entry pool. I mean, I never knew. Not that I'm the big in Europe.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:28

I never knew you could just buy it. Did you see your dad using that in any facet of his business?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:32

No, but his business is different. Like maybe if it's I don't know about the trade, like certain trades, but some of them I could imagine maybe. I don't know about, like I said, in a van.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:40

I've made camera equipment. It's a disservice. No, I might completely try them off.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:46

There's already someone that owns the market. There's a lot of pelican case.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:48

People use pack outs.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:49

They do. Pelican case owns the whole entire everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:54

There's some sick shit coming out in cameras. All right.

Voicemails Builder Bunker Closing

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

Anyway, that's enough of this. These shenanigans have gotten completely out of control. We want to hear your opinion. So call the hotline. We'll be answering them. I don't know what the number is off by heart because I, like every other millennial, immediately forgot every phone number. Is it no number?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:11

It's just the link in the description. It's a number.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:14

Four dial cell phone call. Now hit that link in the description. Leave us a voice message, and we will uh we'd love to bring your opinion on the show. I do think we we owe the people a bunker voicemail episode. Maybe we'll just do a whole episode on it. Of just voicemails? If we get enough of them. We didn't get a lot on the last episode. Yeah, we didn't. So we made like 20.

unknown 1:12:39

Stop lying at the people show.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:40

We're trying to get us out of the episode. Anyway, leave us a voicemail and check out the builder bunker. We are going back to live because they finally fixed the bug, and we're super excited for that. Um with all that, we'll see you on next week's episode. Appreciate it.